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Jeremy Lin is a large reason of why we lost this series

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ScolaIsBallin, May 3, 2013.

  1. davek

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    Use your imagination and fill in the blank yourself. You expect everything to run perfect right out of the box...you leave no room for fine tuning....
     
  2. BBAL

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    I don't believe it's quite as simple as saying Lin is not aggressive. It's situational.

    Lin can be very aggressive when he's allowed to shoot at will and create for himself. He was a completely different player here than he was in NY, and a lot of that has to do with him learning how to be aggressive when playing off the ball. He was a completely different player when Harden was out. When Lin played against the Knicks for example.

    It's obvious McHale expected him to play a specific role and let Harden be that #1 guy and it's just a matter of adjusting to that role.

    So personally I don't think it's quite so clear as to say he's not aggressive. He just hasn't learned when to take over. He's hesitant with a guy like Harden who is the unquestioned best player on the team and can do a lot of PG duties. He didn't have this problem with Melo though, and eventually Woodson forced Lin to shoot less and give Melo the ball. With Harden it's a bit different because Harden can facilitate some himself and dish out assists.

    I don't think it's something that can't be sorted out, because I think it benefits the entire team, Harden included, if both Lin and Harden adhere more closely to their respective positions.

    The biggest thing missing here imo, which hurt the entire team, is not enough PNR situations between Lin/Asik and Lin/Harden. Not sure why McHale didn't develop this more, but it would have been highly beneficial in at least utilizing one of Lin's best strengths.

    For the record, I don't believe Lin is the type of PG that can be the focal point of an offense either. I really think he's pretty much your prototypical PG and needs to play like one.

    Unless McHale decided Harden will be the Rocket's Westbrook and bring in some completely different players, I think some adjustments will need to be made.

    As far as his value goes....I just ran across a pretty interesting article:

    Structure of Jeremy Lin's contract makes him one of NBA's best bargain

    If the Rockets want to move him, I don't think they will have any trouble.
     
  3. apcgamb24

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    I think you're clearly undermining the value of experience. This was his first year as a starter on a new team having to change roles last minute because we got Harden. You really think Lin will be just the same player every year and we'll get bounced out of the first round annually? Give him and the team the offseason to gel and work out their kinks. Lin must and will work on his shot over the offseason, and his passiveness and timidity will decline as he gets more exposure and experience. If he's playing the same way this time next year and not adding more production, then I'd agree with you. But the fact is he had a solid, albeit inconsistent, first year and he was a big reason why we made the playoffs. Morey knows this. Les knows this. Unless they can somehow get CP3 to sign, Lin is staying.
     
  4. kastuul

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    Those haters believe their criticism can make the team better.

    They are just wasting their life for nothing.
     
  5. Fawkward

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    Lin did play crap the whole series. He didn't have one good game. Hopefully Morey grabs Dwight and CP3 in the offseason and we become #1 contender.
     
  6. Louka

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    take your own advice, lol!
     
  7. Pukimonster

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    Yep

    Though I think it might be worth it to see if he could lead the second unit. He'd be more effective as the primary playmaker off the second unit than as a secondary or tertiary playmaker in a 3 PG lineup. Plus I think Greg Smith is a better rollman than Asik and Lin's bread and butter is the pnr
     
  8. YoungGods

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    You registered to Clutchfans to bash Lin and troll Lin fans. Your very first post was What is LOF? and your second and third posts started bashing and trolling Lin. I think over 90% of your posts are about how horrible Lin is. I am surprised you are not getting banned yet.:rolleyes:
     
  9. SuperStar

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    Good article

    Jeremy Lin: ‘I have a really long way to go’


    “I’m not even close,” he said. “I can talk about anything, and it would be something that I would want to be better, whether it’s defense, jump shots, making decisions, being quicker, being more explosive, being more consistent. I think I’m as motivated now as I’ve been my whole life.


    http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2013/05/jeremy-lin-i-have-a-really-long-way-to-go/


    I hope Lin skips all the Asia tours and works extremely hard in the off season to fix all his weaknesses.
     
  10. RocketFever

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    He played 2 games when healthy and given the freedom to play as the 2nd-3nd most important offensive player. 1st game he sucked, 2nd game he was on pace for 14pts/8rb/6ass/4steal, with a decent eFG of 50% against a hungry, full strength OKC team and we were only down 2 at the half with him playing 20 minutes. This game at least qualifies as slightly above average.
     
  11. gnozahs

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    Since you're using such a small, small sample size to make that statement, let's look at the box score for game 6. The guy that you want to be the STARTING point guard for next season had 0 assists, made it to the free throw line 0 times, was in foul trouble and only got 8 points in 33 minutes. I'll let that soak in and see if you still want this guy to make it through a full season as your starting PG.

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  12. kastuul

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    If Bev doesn't work on his foul trouble and assist, and let Harden has 10TOs game again, he will be the next Machado or Toney Douglas.
     
  13. iJHolmes

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    we'll see. We can speculate all day long about whats going to happen in the off season. our GM is random and makes a lot of crazy moves. im just ready to see where this all ends up.

    Find me one post where ive said lin sucks, i can find you 15-20 people in the game thread who flat out say LIN SUCKS get him out, ect, never once have you seen me in the game threads saying that, just because someone doesnt think hes a good player doesn't mean im bashing him. I dont single out Lin, I give harden, Parsons, Asik all lip in game threads when they stink it up. Moreso harden and he's probably my favorite rocket.

    since you're already going through my post go through and count how many are about how bad lin is, and report back, maybe you'll get a dose of your own reality, and after you realize im just someone who has a different point of view than you, maybe you can grow the hell up and get your head out of your a55 and realize this is the internet.
     
  14. ttdestroyer

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    Yup, they are rearing their heads and smacking their lips at their luck! Great analysis ~
     
  15. Karolik

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    He definitely is. Every starter in the series contributed majorly in at least 1 game except for him.. I'm disappointed.

    All I'm gong to say.
     
  16. Jetfuel

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    Lin played crap in game one, as did the rest of the team.

    The rest of the series, he was injured.

    Harden played good in game 5. The rest of the series he played crap.
     
  17. Jetfuel

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    No other starter in the series was injured for the entire series after game 1 to the point where they couldn't use their dominant arm properly.

    Of course someone like you who is hated on Lin and trolled all season long isn't going to take the into consideration. Context is for other people not you.
     
  18. Karolik

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    No one said it was his fault.

    But OP said he is a large reason why we lost this series.

    And guess what? He's right.
     
  19. Jetfuel

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    How can someone who did not play in game 3,4,5 and played 13 minutes in game 6 be the reason 'we' lost?

    it's nonsensical. Do you really get some kind of perverse pleasure from this endless hate and trolling?
     
  20. kwongadong

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    Jeremy Lin is the reason the Rockets lost this series. If he had averaged 25/10/10, they would have swept OKC.

    Clearly James Harden, as much as I like the guy, is not good enough to do it on his own.
     

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