I love his fit for Houston's current system. He hustles for rebounds, plays solid D, has a lot of energy, is a great cog that energizes the whole system. I would love him as a wingman to any PG really, except that he is a little undersized and I suspect that after getting scouted, teams will deal with his tenacity better. I can see PnR defense being a problem for him as well as him being a bad matchup against a good playmaker PG. The best thing about Brooks and Bev is that they are not expected to be playmakers. Their positives come from a lot of things that Houston is lacking - shooting, defense and hustle. To be fair to Lin, he is an excellent playmaker and I think can really shine if he was given the 6th man playmaking role. I would personally love to see Lin torching opponent bench PGs and making all the Houston bench players look like all stars. Give Bev the task of defending starter PGs and stretching the floor to let Harden do his thing.
No, it doesn't. I guess I'm the only one who doesn't think that Beverley's defense is great. I just don't see how leaving your man open or getting picked off by screens is great defense. And going small all the time won't work when we have to face guards bigger than Fisher and Jackson. Limited turnovers b/c he isn't really playing a traditional PG role and making assist plays (as you yourself confirmed). Energy and body movement- absolutely yes- that's best thing he brings to our team (and what would make him a great energy guy off the bench). 3 Pt Shooting- yes- Bev shoots the 3 better than Lin though neither is stellar. But Lin shoots the ball better overall. The thinking that we don't need a playmaker doesn't make any sense at all. Harden and Parsons can't be our primary playmakers. They're so much more effective being our slashers and shooters. We need a guy to be the floor general for all of that and Lin trumps any of our players when it comes to that. We won't make up for all of Lin's assists by relying on Harden and Parsons.
Lin gives us another option when Harden's shot is not falling and/or ref is not on our side. what make sense is utilized all the tools our current team has, therefore I vote for Lin off bench as a scoring option.
Thank you!!! This is what i have been preaching for the longest. Lin off the bench for an entire season would average 15+ a game. There, he would find the freedom like he had when he was in NY.
this would be true if harden doesn't play 40min a game. but regardless, THEY need to be able to play together, like parker and manu. the majority of the time that lin is on the court, assuming he plays real 6th man minutes (30 ish), he WILL be playing with harden for a good twenty or so minutes, if harden continues his 40min/gm. the team is most explosive when both lin and harden are clicking, as we've seen numerous times during the season. give them a training camp together and another year to gel, then decide whether to bring in lin as 6th man or trade him.
well because those piece of **** fans are still thinking about the defense in the 90s, man-on-man, up-to-your-face, hustling Today's NBA defense is more about covering your teammate's ass on defense. right rotations >>>> single coverage, Rockets is a **** defensive team because half of the team don't know how to rotate, and no Beverley can change that. Plus today's top defensive team is even evolved into something more aggressive, luring opponent into traps and bad shoots. If a good offense is like an artwork, then the good defense is a disciplined, precise engineering job.
Apparently you don't know much about "basketball game". It's a team game not one man game. What do you think PG job? Surely not driving the ball to the basket everytime the ball is in your hand trying to score. Really over 38 minutes and only 1 assist as a PG? If that's isn't for personal gain I don't know what is! By the way did you watch the game live or you just watch recap? Don't get me wrong, Beverly is a good player however he is at most time OVER agressive and play dirty ending up hurting yourself or other player.
I appreciate that Badlee, as I think there is a semi-compliment in there somewhere- haha. I hate that this thread has once again started to take on an LOF v LOH feel as opposed to a rational analysis of the reality of both players and what they bring to the team. For the record, I am thrilled that Beverley has stepped it up and blossomed. He is exciting to watch and I feel much better about our guard rotation going forward now that he is in the mix and shown the heart that he has against OKC. But all these idiots trashing Lin saying he can't shoot, isn't a good playmaker, and plays bad defense aren't looking at the facts. Look at Lin's FG% (especially the last 2 months of the season) and say that with a straight face). Look at his assist numbers and say that he isn't the best facilitator on the entire team. Look at his steal numbers (16th in the league and better than Curry, Chalmers and Irving) and his 3 rebounds a game (which are on par with other PG's like Deron Williams and Tony Parker) and say that he can't play D. Does he have deficiencies? Sure, his shot comes and goes with his confidence and at times, he defers too much to his teammates. But the guy (who has effectively played his first season) held his own just fine this season averaging 13.5 pts and 6 assts and we have no reason to believe that he won't get better. If that's me making Lin out to be a god, then you guys have got to start raising your standards of what a deity is.
But his style has turned the tide for our team. Which is more important to you at the moment? More than that. Beverley has played a big part in our teams name being mentioned to possibly make history. Even if they don't, this is a good time for us all. Patrick Beverley had a hand in us going on this ride. LOF's should be more grateful.
Forget about LOF and LOH things will you? That is getting VERY OLD. Yes of course we are greatful that he contributed to our team winning.
What century are you living? Care of who? Should I be? Is he related to me by blood? There's your answer! So stop being a troll trying to start a conflict between the fans.
I can't speak for LOF's b/c I'm a die hard Rocket's fan regardless of the player, but I think it would be crazy for anyone to say that Beverley hasn't played a big part of our team's success. He's hit some big shots, come up with the big charge and grabbed some big boards. But I think that Chandler's near triple double in Game 4 and Hardens 9-11 triples have a ton to do with it too. And it's hard to say how the Rockets would be doing if we had a healthy Lin playing right now. We might be crushing OKC instead of coming down to the wire. I still agree with an earlier poster who said that Beverley's biggest contribution was knocking Westbrook out for the season. OKC has never had to play without him so they're still having to learn how to adjust. That being said, I'm enjoying the ride and I will be cheering loudly for Beverley from section 115 (as long as he doesn't leave Fisher/Jackson wide open) and Lin (but only if he is healthy enough to play- none of this trying to be a hero and playing through the pain stuff). We're in it to win it!
Bevs been great. But Lin has given us great games, better games, but those of you knocking Lin here never give him any credit. Screw credit, you guys knock him at every chance then when someone gets sick of the hate and responds, he is labeled a deity worshipping non Rockets fan. Ill tell you what, there is something in the zeitgeist that has made it popular to hate on Lin like sheep and it has been that way for some time now. But can you guys turn down the hate a bit during what I hope be a historic comeback victory against the number one seed. I swear you guys are so blinded. And straight up, it seems to me that most Lin haters have no idea about basketball in general, what constitutes good defense, what Harden needs in a pg, or even what the role of a good pg is. Lin has the size, the speed, the work ethic, the youth, the upside, the body of evidence to be a solid to great pg for our team, and you guys get stuck in his one bad game in the playoffs and give him zero credit for any good he's done. Forget 38 pts or shooting 40% from 3 for 3 months, he could've scored 50 and shot 50% from 3, and you'd be doing the same thing. And you know it. Let's cut that out.
regarding his defense... don't forget to mention that he and asik were the only two rockets to be mentioned as top 20 candidates for defensive player of the year, according to espn a few months back. lin being a bad defensive player is a total myth. he is not a pest like beverley and can def work on making his opponent a little more "uncomfortable". but he plays really good positional defense and is effective against bigger guards. his rebounding has decreased but i think that's more by design than anything else. he was averaging around 4 for a while. i think he's more focused on getting out on the wings to start the break, and give the rebounding to the bigs. i really like bev's anticipation on rebounds but he needs to watch his offensive rebounds - if you don't get it, it's a fast break for the other team going the other way.
