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Hoping Lin is ready for Weds....

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by lwlee, Apr 30, 2013.

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  1. Reach

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    It's not Rockets fans who're forcing the Rockets/Lin fans distinction; it's Lin fans themselves who are doing that with their behavior. Whenever a Rocket fan has says anything negative about Lin, there are 3 more Lin fans standing at the ready to defend him by any means possible.

    And so what if some Rockets fans don't accept Lin as their starting PG? He's averaging 13/6 for the season and 4/4 for the playoffs -- you'd have to be really irrational to point to "hate," "nonacceptance," or "nascent racism" as some primary motivating factor. If those numbers were 18/8, and if were not having a miserable playoffs, I HIGHLY doubt there would be much criticism of lin right now.
     
  2. boiler

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    This is BS. Even haters can see Lin can play. He did pretty well in the regular season in my book. He played ONE bad playoff game, which happened to be his first ever postseason game, now he is Tim Tebow?
     
  3. RedRedemption

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    Oh yeah most definitely. Everyone that criticizes Lin is a covert racist, even me... an Asian.

    Everyone hates his HYPE, not Jeremy Lin the person. I'm sure everyone loves Jeremy Lin as a person. He's charitable, works well with the coaching staff, hardly ever complains, and seems to be a very nice guy.

    But when you have fans running around saying that he's the best player on this team and that Harden sucks and that Jeremy Lin needs more playing time? Its ridiculous and its the same reason people hate Tebow. Only difference is Lin has talent. Tebow has nothing.
     
  4. BBAL

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    Because he's a Rocket and a big part of why the Rockets are in the playoffs? Because he's busted his ass for the team? There are players that have performed worse, or not at all, but they're not being treated as if they're part of the team or some sort of cancer that need to be kicked out.

    That's what's obvious.
     
  5. boiler

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    Yeah, right. If he played like Lebron, I am sure everyone would love him.
     
  6. YoungGods

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    Proofs please?
     
  7. PhiSlamma

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    Well, I guess if you asked the hypothetical white Republican who constantly criticizes Obama why he continues to criticize Obama, he might say "because Obama is overhyped and doesn't deserve the attention. And he has a lot of blind followers."

    These things are not always clear-cut.

    Tebow had a good run in Denver. But not a Linsanity 1.0 run. Nothing that I ever saw someone like Nate Silver say "yeah, this is pretty extraordinary." It's an apples and oranges comparison.

    But I think you generate a good point here: That Lin doubters would compare Lin with Tebow -- despite what seems like a wide gap in performance, if not wins (Tebow did win well with Denver) -- kind of reinforces the point for many Lin fans, I'm sure. This would probably seem to them exactly the kind of disregard that makes them question the sincerity and motives of those comparing Lin with Tebow, just as they might be skeptical of other vocal Lin doubters who do not use a Tebow comparison to minimize Lin's performances.
     
  8. kanariya

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    Not true.
    There are so many LBJ haters out there.

    Haters will continue to hate.
     
  9. torocan

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    Ran across this interesting interview on CBS Houston.

    I think folks really don't understand the nature of Lin's injury. I wouldn't be shocked if they don't let him play on Friday or severely limit his minutes.

    http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/05...remy-lins-injured-chest/#.UYKKr4lROMc.twitter

    Sounds like it's more than about shooting. He may have problems breathing right now -- not the best situation when you run an uptempo offense.

    We'll see how long before the doctors give him the all clear.
     
  10. Nook

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    I am not concerned about too much pressure on Lin, or hurting his feelings or really anything other than what gives the Rockets the best chance of winning game 6.

    I don't care if a player loses his starting job, if someone else is doing a better job. Having said that, I would be surprised if Lin loses his starting job. However, if he does not start in game 6 or 7, I see no way that he plays in round two (assuming there is a round 2).

    Beverley and Brooks have done a good job. However, Lin is a good player and with Delfino banged up, the Rockets need him available. Hell, if Harden is cold and Beverly is in foul trouble, the Rockets will need Lin.
     
  11. SuperStar

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    Not saying he is Tebow just that when you get that much attention for being average, you're bound to have more haters. I assume Tebow has a lot of doubters and haters as well.
     
  12. Nook

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    Come on..... who thought Lin didn't want to play?

    I don't know how bad Lin's injury effects his play, but if he isn't at close to 100% he needs to sit.

    My question is he being held out only because of the injury? I would think so, even if they decided they like Beverly better, Lin could come off the bench.
     
  13. RedEyesKirby

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    He is held out because the bruised chest does not allow him to breathe properly. Not because of his poor play in game 1. That is the only reason and the reason why trainers take the decision out of him.
     
  14. Nook

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    I certainly don't question Lin's desire to play, he is a tough guy that loves the game.

    Having said that, if he isnt close to 100%, he needs to sit out.
     
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    The only reason Rockets won last two games without Lin was that OKC was without Westbrook. Brooks is a nice insurance over the short term, but Rockets need both Lin and Beverley if Rockets win next two. If Lin was healthy in game 3, Rockets are up 3-2 right now. Granted, the Rockets would have an incredibly tough time if Westbrook was healthy.
     
  16. BBAL

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    Don't be ignorant. He's not getting extra attention for being average. He's getting extra attention for being a huge Asian underdog that's gotten shunned and proved a bunch of people wrong.

    Sorry, but everyone wants to pull for their own especially when he's representing the MAJORITY of the WORLD POPULATION!

    He makes the NBA a killing. Even if you don't believe Lin does, the asian fan base, more so than Lin, do deserve some representation in the NBA.

    If currently that is Lin who represents the majority of that fan base, so what? Make the NBA 15-20% asian and then Lin will get a lot less attention. As long as you only have one or two guys representing such a huge population segment, then you're going to have to accept they will get more attention.

    It is what it is, and that's not the player's fault.
     
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    I'm pretty sure they benched him because they knew he was still too injured to go even though he obviously wanted to play.
     
  18. PhiSlamma

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    I never said that, as you know.

    The Lin over-hype is annoying. It is, at least to me it is. But the nasty, venomous stuff from nowhere isn't about that. I don't think it is, anyways.

    What I said is correct -- unconscious racism exists. Now, I might not think the Hypothetical White Republican is suffering from it when he disagrees with Obama 10 out of 10 decisions. But I understand supporters of Obama may feel differently.

    The 60 Minutes recent spot on Lin can help make my point. Why was Lin passed over for a Division I scholarship?

    Not good enough. Really not that good.

    How do you think that happened, exactly?

    What does Lin's high school coach think?

    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/17/sports/la-sp-sn-lin-coach20120213

    So, Lin before college, apparently in the minds of DI recruiters:

    Not good enough. Really not that good.

    Lin in the minds of doubters after Linsanity 1.0:

    Not good enough. Really not that good. Fluke. Small sample size.

    Lin in the minds of doubters after Year One with the Rockets:

    Not good enough. Really not that good.

    See the pattern here?

    This isn't very complicated stuff. I'm definitely not saying that all the people who doubt or dislike Lin are wrong, or racists, or anything.

    But to pretend that there isn't an extra edge to some of the stuff, or that some version of unconscious "racism" or whatever you want to call it hasn't apparently affected Lin or the perception of him in the past seems naive, at best.

    Don't expect Lin fans to accept such naivete. I don't expect that. The same way I don't expect Obama supporters to accept that the Hypothetical White Republican who keeps disagreeing with Obama is only doing it because of policy differences.
     
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    He's getting the attention because he took a team from pretty much out of the playoffs back into the playoff race in 2 months. Also he made historic numbers. It is definitely not because he was average and Asian. It was because of his superstar performance sustained over months + being a 3rd string PG. I still don't understand how people can mistaken this fact.
     
  20. davek

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    Right now the Rockets looks like a team while OKC looks like a 1 man army.

    The try to find holes with hack-asik that didn't work. 3pt shooting no problem with Garcia and Harden lighting it up. If Asik, Garcia and Harden play like they did last game it really doesn't matter who plays PG. To say PB was the deciding factor to the win is ridiculous...
     

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