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Morey plan A

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by the shark, May 1, 2013.

  1. lakersuck

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    If that doesn't work, we can trade Lin and Trob to a bad team for a 2014 1st rounder (which is a LOADED draft) and then sign Jsmoove and Jennings to near max contracts while holding on to the other good players. Still makes a hell of a team for next year and we get a good rookie after that.
     
  2. OmegaSupreme

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    considering i posted this I couple of days ago, i guess it's not out of the realm of possibility. way to go out on a limb. ;)
     
  3. megastahr

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    First 58 million was this year...not next year...and NBA has had a very strong profitable year this year...has almost doubled its revenues in china and already announced that the there will be an increase in salary cap:

    "Two weeks ago David Stern mentioned that he expects NBA revenue to increase to $5b for the year that ends on 6/30/13.
    This would be approximately a 20% increase in revenue over the year that ended on 6/30/12.
    If this turns out to be true, there are significant ramifications that this would have for the league, their franchises and the Salary Cap/Luxury Tax thresholds.

    The Salary Cap would increase from $58.04m to $69.65m and the Luxury Tax threshold would increase from $70.3m to $84.4m. "

    http://samcelt.forumotion.net/t4174-2013-2014-nba-salary-cap-luxury-tax

    this is just one place Ive seen it several times over this year.

    So first point...that is a projection but we all know it will go up somewhere to either 63-69 million is the safest range i could find.

    second in this scenario Robinson would most definitely be moved. You only must get under the cap in order to offer the contract or work sign and trade. After that there are many wise to add talent to the team outside of capspace.

    After that then you can spend up to the maximum through exceptions and taking on salary in trades for future draft picks.

    You seem to be educated enough that I should have to point out basic things like... mid level exception, bi-annual, veteran min exception etc etc...many ways you can add to the roster after you have completed the deals to land you howard and cp3.

    and the primary method would be to take on contracts for future draft picks from other teams.

    Bam...done...your welcome :grin:
     
  4. the shark

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    some of you are flat out CLUELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I NEVER said this was MY plan. I said in my opinion I think this is the first plan that Morey is going to explore. In fact I said I don't want Howard.

    For those of you who are claiming Paul is a ball hog, again you're CLUELESS!!!

    And I'm not going to take the time to explain to you what he brings to the table.

    If you held a pistol to Morey's head and said, "who would you rather have Paul or Lin", if any of you think he'd say "Lin", again you're freakin' CLUELESS!!!!

    This isn't a knock on Lin as I like what he brings to the table as well, but he ISN'T better than Paul, and not even close!!!!!

    Morey has a plan of attack once the season is over, and I feel quite certain that his first plan is to explore the possibility of getting both Paul and Howard.

    Is it a pipe dream as one poster claimed? Even if it is, Morey wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't explore this. He now has Harden in the fold (along with some other valuable assets--Parsons for one). What he will try to do is get Harden, Paul, and Howard in the same room to discuss this option. Having Harden makes setting this up a heck of a lot easier.

    Morey to Paul & Howard, "is your #1 goal to make a lot of money or to win a championship"?
    Morey, "what if I could show you a way to position yourself to achieve both"?

    Morey, "the Lakers aren't getting any younger, and in fact, the team is getting older and breaking down....which we all witnessed this season. Even if this team was healthy there's NO way you'd be good enough to win a championship". "In fact you barely made the playoffs this yr".

    Morey, "there's definitely a lot of "ifs" with the Clippers, and no matter what's on the roster now (and the cap space they have available) there's NO way they'd EVER be able to assemble a team that would come close to having the three of you on the same team (Paul, Harden & Howard)".

    Morey, "throw in that we have another rising star in Parsons, and an owner who's willing to pay the luxury tax because he wants to win". "On top of this the team would still be pretty young and have a great oppotunity to compete for championships for the next 5-7 yrs".

    Morey, "Dwight you have no guarantees who'd be willing to come to LA in a couple of yrs".

    Morey, "gentlemen this isn't a pipe dream or something that's possible somewhere down the line...it's possible RIGHT now...and all it will take to become a reality is for you Chris and you Dwight to say LET'S DO IT and we'll make it happen".

    Morey, "isn't this what Lebron, Wade & Bosh did"?

    What other team can offer this opportunity to them RIGHT now?

    I want to hear what Bima has to say about this?
     
  5. pwnyxpress

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    megastahr

    I've looked at the cba and straight up revenue, particularly overseas, is but just one piece of the salary cap equation. I think that article might be wrong to say it will go as high as $69M. I think $60M is a safe guess, and a bit higher quite possible.

    Don't forget though that Harden's contract is pegged as a % of the salary cap, and the current $13.7M is an estimate. If the cap goes up x%, so does his contract, so it does cut back a portion of that. This does not affect D12 or CP3, however, as their contract is already only based on 105% of their current contract amounts.
     
  6. megastahr

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    don't get so upset...90% of the people bashing the idea are simply uneducated on salary cap, and the business of the NBA...and the people that say it wouldn't work basketball-wise are just stupid. In either case, just ignore them.

    State the facts and just accept some people will hear something and just believe regardless of how many times you show them facts stating the opposite.

    Its life lol
     
  7. the shark

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    Sorry omega I didn't see your post.
     
  8. roslolian

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    If you cut guys they still count against the cap. Also look at the Heat roster, you basically have 3 max guys and old dudes. how are we gonna afford Parsons+rest of the rookies if we give Howard, CP3 and Harden max contracts? THis is the very same reason we got Harden in the first place, OKC couldn't afford paying 3 max players.

    Secondly, what incentive does Sterling have for getting Asik/Lin when they have deandre Jorden at center and CP3's the heart of their team? I know Lin =cash cow but I'm pretty sure getting into the playoffs and winning a lot of game generates more money than Lin wihtout the Linsanity.

    Also it's ridiculous for you to say you know Morey's "Plan". Do you have any inside intel on Morey? Some connections to the Rox brass? Then how do you know what his "Plan A" is? Did you have any track record of predicting trades like the Harden trade?

    People are 1 starring this thread because you effectively just made a "random" trade proposal thread with no factual evidence or even 1 single rumor the Rox are heading into this direction. The crazy thing is it's not even that original, "let's sign DH and CP3"! I'm sure nobody's ever thought of that before :rolleyes:
     
  9. JayGoogle

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    Well if you are Morey and you have a deal to bring Paul and Dwight on board I doubt you care much about Parsons and the other rookies lol.
    Because in such a scenario Sterling would be losing Paul any ways and would take what he could get.

    {QUOTE]Also it's ridiculous for you to say you know Morey's "Plan". Do you have any inside intel on Morey? Some connections to the Rox brass? Then how do you know what his "Plan A" is? Did you have any track record of predicting trades like the Harden trade?

    People are 1 starring this thread because you effectively just made a "random" trade proposal thread with no factual evidence or even 1 single rumor the Rox are heading into this direction. The crazy thing is it's not even that original, "let's sign DH and CP3"! I'm sure nobody's ever thought of that before :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    It's not really all that random because Morey did follow both Paul and Howard on Twitter :p
     
  10. dje243

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    I used to be extremely anti-pau but now I'm definitely on board with getting him for that one year until we can make our play for LMA or Love. Guy definitely can dish to shooters.
     
  11. JoeBarelyCares

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    The player you are getting in the sign and trade will have to convince his team that he's off to Dallas to join Dirk and Cuban if they don't do the sign and trade.
     
  12. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Did you start watching basketball this season? Harden played with Russell (No shot is a bad shot) Westbrook and Kevin (I'm the best scorer the NBA) Durant last season and was plenty effective.
     
  13. couple of d's

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    Unrealistic but man Chris Paul on the Rockets would be a dream come true.
     
  14. megastahr

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    Yes put the heat didnt have a starting PG making 800K ...starting SF 800K a 2nd round pick that will make about the same next year. To start with.

    second...please read the pages of discussion... It is not up to either LA teams they take what they can get and thats all there is to it.

    If they dont work sign and trades we can trade asik to a team needing a center for a draft pick and cap space and lin to a team that wants him for the same...and t rob we do the same...

    Then pay for both players outright. The threat of signing both is all u need...see miami and Cleveland last year. If cp3 and Howard want to come here both LA teams will take a SNT. Just like Cleveland and Toronto did...they got basically nothing in return...except trade exceptions.
     
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    The cap wouldnt really be an issue. We could make it work. But I hate Chris Paul with a passion that can't be described in the english language!
     
  17. BigggReddd

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    LeBron? Do you mean dream scenario when you say that or is it a flat-out prediction?
     
  18. Old Man Rock

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    Yes I agree. If you are going to leave reality for that nuthouse in the sky why be stupid and stop halfway. Dream the most impossible dream other wise you look like a lune. :)
     
  19. Old Man Rock

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    That makes it even more stupid because Morey doesn't have this plan. he know it will never happen and it is not his plan A, B, C, D, or X. Yeah he might dream about it. And would jump on it if it were possible. But he would jump on trading for Lebron as well onlt that ain't happening either. So you are speaking for Morey when you don't have a clue what his Plan A is.
     
  20. rlivz

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    He said he thinks that's what Morey is going to pursue first.

    Why are you so 100% positive that it's out of the realm of possibility? Obviously it's a long shot, but after the Heat have had success you have to think there are other players thinking that way.
     

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