Chris Broussard stands against Jason Collins beliefs

Its not about rejecting the historical character of Jesus, its about rejecting the notion of divinity and miracles by the complete suspension of the natural order as we know it. If you are going to believe in miracles just because its written in a book and people belive it, then its a slippery slope and you would have to believe in a multitude of miracles/supernatual events told throughout hystory/mythology.

 

serious? please read my other posts...but you are completely incorrect.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." (NIV).

compares it to every other sin...and says What? THEY WILL NOT GO TO HEAVEN!

Leviticus 18:22 - "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."
Leviticus 20:13 - "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

And while...yes...this is levitical law. This shows you the principles of the Bible do not tolerate homosexuality any more then murders.

We no longer have to fear death...because Jesus died for ALL sins. However we are still obligated to obey the laws...just we now have access to His Grace when we repent. Repentance however literally means a change of direction....so if you repent you no longer commit that sin.

 

I remember talking with my dad during this last election. He was going to vote for Obama and we were discussing his policies etc. At one point I told him how I thought it was great for Obama to be supporting gay marriage. His response kind of shocked me when he told me he was disgusted by gay marriage and homosexuality in general.

Well, different people feel very strongly on these kinds of issues it seems. My dad's not even religious though. So I can imagine religious people don't like this.

 

I think you missed his point.

Do you believe Broussard has asked for forgiveness for his sin of practicing his righteousness in front of others? Or do you think he's proud of the stand he's taken?

Assuming the latter, is he not openly and proudly living in sin?

 

This is probably a subject Broussard should just be quiet about, but he has his opinion, so....whatever.

Reminds me of the times I've visited "black" churches. (Sunday morning being the most segregated couple of hours in America.) Both times the sermons veered waaaaaaaaaaay off topic into real vitriol-spewing anti-homosexual rhetoric. And I'm talking, "Jesus said unto the Apostles, 'Etc etc etc go unto the people'....That reminds me; I HATE GAYS!!"

Not that this doesn't also happen in other churches. But the black pastors really worked up a sweat denouncing homosexuality. I was like, "Where the hell did this come from? Can we get back on track? 'Love thy neighbor, do unto others, hit this side of my face too'....?"

 

Ok well thats fine if you choose that. I agree if you accept the historical and archeological evidence but just reject the religious aspects then you are at least not an idiot. However its pretty hard to imagine Christianity becoming what it is today without the supernatural.

Such as after Jesus died...the Apostles went away defeated and would have never been heard of again in history. However because Jesus miraculously resurrected history writes of men dying for a cause ...being tortured for the belief in Jesus...and miracles be recorded as factual as Rome murdering Christians by the thousands . Its like ok ill believe this part as recorded historical fact.....but not this one. But I guess you are entitled to that.

 

TIL that the King James and NIV elicit very different vibes when read:

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
King James Version (KJV)
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

 

I dont think he did what you said...but with the way he phrased that I would say he is probably extremely educated in scripture. And I would hope he lives out what he knows.

However, we are all human and we all sin. I sin. I am no more worthy of heaven then Jason Collins....just knowing that allows me go humbly before God on a daily basis and repent and try and do better.

 

Oh it's gonna get alot worse. Prepare for the bigot and homophobic name calling next.

 

effeminate is just a bigger word for gay....

 

In Broussard's defense (never thought I'd say that), he was asked his personal opinion. It's not like he just came out and said that while reporting the news. Had he said, "Multiple sources confirm Collins will burn in hell." that would be off-putting. But he wasn't reporting; he was simply asked his personal opinion.

 

So we should kill them?

Putting a man/woman to death over their way of living, even if its not hurting anyone is murder. I might be a little confused, but if you live through the Bible and it says that, go do it and see where you end up. I may be reading it wrong because I'm on little sleep, but wow.

 

What rock did you climb out from under?

#1 Christianity, like every other religion is not provable, hence why it is called "faith".

#2 Who rejected the historical character of Christ?

#2 Please show me where in the Old Testament where Christ says that Homosexuals cannot be Christians.

#3 I assume you do not eat shell fish, have any credit cards, a home mortgage or borrow money in any fashion... and only wear certain colored clothes made of certain materials?

 

I'm a little confused -- did Collins claim somewhere to be a Christian? He talks in his SI article about being raised with Christian values that were important to him, but he never claims (that I've seen) to be a Christian. So, why is Broussard bringing it up? If he's not claiming to be a Christian, he's probably 'in open rebellion' already before you even get to his gayness.

Anyway, I'm kinda impressed that Broussard is willing to commit career suicide over his religious beliefs. That takes a lot of courage and/or foolishness. Even if he doesn't lose his job over it, he has still truncated his career trajectory by putting himself in such stark opposition to the party line.

 

Too late for you......

 

Lol read gospels written about Jesus over two decades later? Bro u mad

 

He doesn't think he will lose his job or face any consequences. He was very careful how he couched his reponse by mentioning premartial sex, etc., so that he could argue he isn't a bigot.

Broussard is a terrible reporter, all he does is steal other peoples scoops and report them as his own..... but he has the right to voice his opinion.... and he has the right to be criticized and face public scrutiny for voicing his opinions in a public forum.

 

not explaining it was self explanatory in the context of the post...reread...and try again