Right, you don't sound hateful at all. To answer your questions, no it's not that Schaub "doesn't have" a strong work ethic at all, or is even a poor leader, but Tebow is one of if not the best in those respects, & yes even if he never saw the field, those intangibles can have an effect on the guys. It's just hard to believe you really think schaub especially would have nothing to learn from tebow, psychologically, spiritually, just general mental gamesmanship.
You could win some games with Arian Foster and this defense if you built the entire team around the read option type stuff Tebow can do. Would the offense be as good as it is currently constituted? Not even close....I imagine we could go 7-9. If you bring Tebow in as a backup, not only does the circus come to town but if your starting QB goes down, you have to implement an entirely new offense on the fly, because Tebow running our standard offense would be full of fail. He had a little success in Denver but it seems to be mostly from superheroic defensive efforts. I am sure he is a max effort guy. And I don't question his attitude and commitment, just his talent. I don't see any point in bringing him here at all. If anything the Kansas State QB we just brought in can do any stuff we might be tempted to use a Tebow type talent for (goaline/short yardage packages/gadget plays) without the circus.
Lol not sure if serious but he didn't seem to help the Jets last year. I'm glad Tebow has such a strong work ethic it really seems to have helped his ability as a qb in his prosperous NFL career so far. Tebow should go to the CFL or change positions, NFL teams are trying to win they don't need to waste a roster spot on a guy who is purely "motivational" in his contribution. And even so his "motivational" aspects are hyped up by the media where losers seem to think NFL players would have that have any effect on them. They are plenty motivated on the fact they might lose their jobs. It worked in college when he was one of the best but it's a completely different game in the pros.
He would bring "intangibiles"? We are talking about adults, professionals... not 6 year olds. Will he teach them intangibles like refusing to change positions to help his team? We don't need any more intangibles. Further, we don't need Schaub to become Jesus Boy. If he wants to become a stronger religious leader, he can do some on his own time. People do not hate Tebow, just like people don't really hate Lin. What people do hate is the undeserving attention they get, which is not based on the on field performance. Not a single team would trade for Tebow, not one.... that is all you need to know.
Why would Shaub learn more from Tebow than TJ Yates or Case Keenum? You do not spend roster spaces on guys you think are good guys, they need to be able to perform. Tebow is a fine citizen, so is Yates, Keenum and 90% of the QB's in the NFL, and most QB's in the NFL work hard.... nothing unique or special about Tebow.
Why would you use the Jets as an example? I wouldn't eactly try to predict anything from the Jets' to Texans' culture. But you guys are missing the point regarding intangibles. Aside from the fact you're being a little naive about the average mental makeup of most nfl players, showing our guys some much stronger leadership, lighting a fire behind schaub is just worst case scenario, & not the best use of a roster spot I agree- now scheme an offense around his strengths, as we have seen CAN be successful in the nfl with a little imagination, and the sky is the limit.
Hating someone and thinking they're really terrible at what they do are 2 completely different things. He's a bad quarterback. Probably one of the worst in the league. Seems like a genuinely nice guy, though. I have nothing personally against him...just don't want him playing quarterback for the team that I follow. Why would Tebow (who's been in the league for 3 years...only part of 1 as a starter) know more than Matt Schaub (a 9-yr vet and multiple pro bowler) about gamesmanship?
Obviously the Jets were a sideshow on their own but if his "intangibles" couldn't help the Jets, how are they going to help the Texans so seem to be a tightly run quality organization with plenty of "character" guys in place. Ed Reed brings everything that someone could hope Time Tebow brings in the best case scenario one could hope at Tebow (with the added bonus that he will actually contribute to this team from day 1). And we just we just disagree on his talents, I know he had a run of close wins Denver but I don't think that would translate here. If he can't beat out Mark Sanchez and Greg McElroy to get some playing time I don't want him anywhere near the Texans. I hope he finds what he wants and is able to prove himself if he truly believes he's a qb. Just not here
Come on guys, I think anyone who legitimately thinks Tim Tebow should start on any team, much less a Super Bowl contender with a pro bowl qb, makes a case that they know nothing about football. Tim Tebow seems like a real nice guy, but there's no need to have him on our team. He can't throw a football. And people need to stop comparing him and Jeremy Lin. Jeremy Lin, put up crazy numbers consistently for a good stretch against great teams when the Knicks superstars went down. Tim Tebow was terrible but was bailed out by his defense and his kicker bailing 70 yd bombs like every week. He was so bad that the steelers thought they didn't need safety help like they would against any other qb in the league. He makes an easy post completion that I coulda made and wins a playoff game. He would be the 5th best option for us at qb.
He should have been? Are we talking about the same Tebow? His teammates went to the newspapers and said Tebow was straight garbage. Would teammates do that to a player that is such a great religious, spiritual, and overall leader? Yes because he really is straight garbage.