The only thing Brussard said that left him vulnerable is when he said basically that he doesnt think Collins is a Christian. What he should've said, is something like... "I don't know what's in Jason Collins heart so I cannot say whether or not he is a Christian because only God has the right to judge. However, by the definition the Bible gives on Christianity, someone cannot purposefully live a life dominated by sin and be a true believer. The logic simply doesn't make sense, if you are a Christian than you believe the Bible. There is zero doubt that the Bible states that being gay is a sin. So why would a homosexual even claim to be a Christian? Now, just because you sin doesn't mean you can't be a Christain, we all sin. The difference is the acceptance of Gods forgiveness. With that acceptance comes a responsibility to live a life set apart from the world, live a life that's different from secular things. One cannot live both a life set apart from secular things while also living a life dominated by sin. This goes for all sins, not just homosexuality." I'm not here to debate with anybody, that's just my two cents.
I'm pretty sure every single Christian has committed a sin according to the bible. Saying that a person cannot be Christian because he is homosexual, is just basically saying a person cannot be Christian if they divorced, or if they wore clothes of different materials and a million other sins stated in the bible.
Im glad he did this. Who knows how this will effect his career, but then again he has almost reached the end of his NBA days so whatever. People can think how they want. Society has always alienated those that are "different" than the "norm"
Not a Christian, but doesn't the Bible also saying something about how you shouldn't judge others and that we're all sinners?
Correct. I can only shake my head at some people's posts here. Goes to show that Christian loonies and Muslim loonies and other loonies are not that far apart in some areas.
Like I said, not going to debate anything. I'll just point out to you that in my poś I say everyone has sinned. There's a difference between sinning, which we all do, and living a life consumed in and dominated by sin.
Yes you're exactly right. I'm not judging anyone. I don't know Jason Collins, only he and God know if he is a Christain or not. I simply stated a part of what the Bible says about being a Christian. Jason Collins very well may be a Christian who is just battling a perticular sin right now. I'm not saying "all sinners can't be Christians" we are all sinners and we can all be Christians.
The "not going to debate" is a cop out. If you are going to make a statement on a stance as controversial as this, you better be prepared to defend it. Also, everyone, including yourself, is living a life "consumed in and dominated by sin". Are you wearing clothes of different fabric? You are sinning. Have you argued recently? You are sinning. Have you ever complained about what you don't have? That's sinning. Have you ever lacked compassion? That's sinning too. What about speaking on the evils committed by others? That's a sin. Have you spoken with pride? That's a sin. Spoke too fast? That's a sin too. Cursing? That's a big sin. Thought about desiring sinful things? That's a sin. There are about a few thousand more of these. Unless you are admitting that you do not commit one every single day, then you are also guilty of living a life dominated by sin.
I say I don't want to get into a debate because they always end up getting heated and name calling starts and it's just a waist of energy. Also I don't like debating on a message board because context is almost always mis-interpreted. I've always wondered about those strange laws, so I started looking into it. Basically, those are not Christian laws. "Christians" weren't even around in the Old Testament when those laws were stated. http://www.gci.org/law/sct01 This website does a better job at explaining it than I can.
Here's the thing. A lot of posters are saying something along the lines of "good for him, but what's the big deal? Why do we have to make a big deal out of it? It should just be the way it is and no big deal." That might be the best way to look at it, except for the question about why a big deal needs to be made of it. Look at some of the responses in this thread and you will see exactly why it needs a big deal to be made of it. When you have people comparing it to bestiality and pedophilia etc. you see why it needs to be shown for the what it is, which is consenting between two adults and doesn't affect anyone else.
oh hi You know I don't have a strong opinion on this. If he likes having butt sex with men, then I don't care. If he wants to tell everybody his sexual preference, then I don't really care about that, either. Yes, you can be a Christian and homosexual, although that would make you a sinner, which every other single Christian is, also. There should be some good faith effort to move away from that sinful behavior, however. I don't judge others, so I'll leave that to the man upstairs. What does piss me off are all the people trying to get all this credit for saying "oh good for him" or "oh this is such great progress". Eh, whatever you're just trying to prove to everybody what a good little person you are. Selfish BS
And what did Jesus/New Testament say about homosexuality again? You do know that only in the old testament is homosexuality explicitly referred to and condemned right? The new testament does not make any explicit mention to homosexuality, and Jesus has never spoke about homosexuality himself.
It would be so hard coming out as a young "gay" player in the NFL ... going on the road to fans like Phila, Chicago, Oakland and what you would hear in the stand, and opponents. I think when you're at the end of your career nobody really cares to much and praise the first person for coming out, but a younger player coming in as "gay", being with some of these younger players who grew up in the street ... it wont be nice comments going on in the locker room at times. Is the ignorant players that your prob more worry about making statements, and we know there's alot of them.
I have no hard evidence of this, but I strongly suspect that the vast majority of people who consider themselves Christians willfully engage in premarital sex. Including pastors, elders, priests etc. They also have no problem regularly committing many other sins, such as lying, cursing, adultery, and on and on. They wear an invisible mask in church and take it off for the other six days of the week. Only the truly devout Christians have lifestyles that adhere strictly to the Bible; the rest are "casual" cherry pickers. On topic...good for Collins.
