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Is Jeremy Lin your Point Guard of the Future?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by SF3isBack!!, Apr 28, 2013.

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How many of you are comfortable with Jeremy Lin as our starting point guard?

  1. Comfortable

    58.6%
  2. Uncomfortable

    41.4%
  1. CDrex

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    When given only the option of a binary choice, I voted "uncomfortable". That said, I'm a solid 4/10 on the comfort scale. I think he'll get better and I think he's worth his contract, I'm just more comfortable on Harden, Parsons and Asik and so I think that after the 4 spot is secured, upgrading from Lin has to be on the table.
     
  2. BackNthDay

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    I will say this time and again. Jlin is a 7th or 8th man spelling the point guard for about 15 to 20 minutes per game. Could be more if he's on a scoring binge, which happens about every 10 games or so. He could dominate the ball while Harden's on the bench and run PnR. But having both of those crash dummies on the floor at the same time kills our defense.

    The Rockets need Beverly, Asik, Parsons, and anyone of the PF's who feel like playing D on the floor to cover up for the worst defensive 2 guard in the league (Harden)
     
  3. D-rock

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    You are wrong. Rockets did not have the ammo to make Harden trade without the Lowry trade.

    And Dragic was not coming back under any circumstances. He tried to make big boy demands, player option, and Morey was not having any of that.

    You are making simplistic generalizations with your comparisons.
     
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  4. SF3isBack!!

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    Your right we did use the pick that we got for Lowry on the trade for Harden. But my point is if we had Goran or Kyle over Lin we would still make the playoffs. That is why Lin is criticized so much. A. Because of what he did in the past and B. Because last year people loved Goran. People weren't to fond of Kevin Martin and could care less about Dalembert.
     
  5. SF3isBack!!

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    Also I think if we kept Goran Morey would have found a way, the basic pieces were there in lamb and martin.
     
  6. kwongadong

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    Goran is good, and arguably better than Lin...not by much though. But even with Goran, this team would not be any closer to a ring this year. Any prediction for next year or the year after that is pure speculation.
     
  7. SF3isBack!!

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    Your right but Goran is a much better fit next to Harden. I think Goran is fairly better than Lin at this point. I don't know if it will be that way in the future. I'm just saying that one of the big dissapointments of Lin is that he doesn't feel like an upgrade it kinda felt like we settled. Ofcourse if he played at Linsanity level then we wouldnt even be having this conversation but he didn't. So Lin is gonna feel the pressure of everyone's expectations.

    I still have some two questions on his talent.

    1. Is Lin unable to play with other stars. If so would he be better at running a team like Toronto or Orlando.

    2. Was his injury so bad that it effected his confidence and making him less effective than he was in NY.
     
  8. real_egal

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    I don't think Goran is a good defender or spot up shooter, and he needs ball in hand to be effective. Goran has played better than Lin in this season, but I don't see him complementing Harden better.

    As for the notion that Lin can't play with stars, people didn't watch Knicks games after Linsanity and that Miami game. Lin played with Melo pretty well, under Woodson. Not as spectacular as Linsanity, but quite effective, and especially in the 4th quarters.
     
  9. SF3isBack!!

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    He plays well sometimes with Harden too. I mean can he play at Linsanity level, atleast thats what I would liek to see.
     
  10. kwongadong

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    No clue about your second question, but regarding question 1, what would he have to average for you to think he is capable of playing with a star?

    Look at Kidd in his prime, Lin's Per36 are not that different...lower assists and rebounds due to sharing PG duties and style of play. And in only 1 year did he have a better FG% than Lin this season.

    Don't take this as me saying Lin is a HOF pg, but do you think it's more likely for him to improve or get worse?
     
  11. real_egal

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    You know that's unrealistic, right?:)

    Linsanity level meaning all focus on him, Chandler/Jeffries setting even multiple picks for him on single possession, Novak/Shumpert/JR srpeading out for spot up shootings. Also, he caught the league off guard and came out of nowhere.

    If we play that way, it would be huge waste of Harden's talent. Even then, he wouldn't repeat Linsanity, because opponent will game plan to stop him.

    However, not repeating Linsanity doesn't mean he's utter garbage. He's shown improvement and I am pretty sure he will further improve during off-season.

    I really don't get the urge or even joy by some - he's hurt and Beverley is doing well for the past 2 games, so we can finally get rid of him!
     
  12. SF3isBack!!

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    When you look at those numbers maybe, maybe he might get better. I just think this team needs to be tougher and Jeremy looks like the scariest player out there. Overall as the season went along I lost my hope of Jeremy Lin being an All-Star someday. He just lost a certain hungry that you need to be a star. Everyoen blames Harden for being a ball hoag but it seems like half the time Jeremy doesn't wnat the ball. To me he looks like he will be an average player.
     
  13. l4z4rd

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    sadly Lin is not the type of PG that fits the Rockets plan of molding a team around Harden. They need a PG that doesn't need the ball to be effective since Harden is so ball dominant. Or just move Harden to PG and look for another SG.
     
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    13/6 54 TS% really isn't bad for a guy coming off an injury in his first full season. He also had to adjust to playing off the ball more.

    I'd give it until next season at least to make a judgement.
     
  15. iJHolmes

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    I dont think many are saying Lin is an actually bad player, on paper. he looks decent. his numbers aren't bad.

    BUT, the argument here and why i voted no as him not being the PG of OUR (the houston rockets) future, is because he does not fit with our team. Yes he can make shots sometimes, but Lin needs to be on a team to where he is the primary ball handler, as long as we have players like harden and parsons he will not fit well. He needs a team like the orlando magic back when they had D2, he would have worked well with that system. ours not so much. I feel like he's holding us back from moving forward from the way that this team plays.
     
  16. l4z4rd

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    kinda feel for Lin. He left the Knicks to get away from the ball dominant Melo only to get paired up a ball dominant guard in Harden.
     
  17. jordnnnn

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    Correction. He left the Knicks because The Rockets were the ONLY team to offer him a contract and NY decided to pass on matching.
     
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    Lol, no he didn't. He stated multiple times that he and Melo just needed more time playing together to get the chemistry right. He arguably played better with Melo than with Harden although the sample size is small.
     
  19. Rockets590

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    Don't really understand the hate. What exactly were the expectations for Lin? To average 20 and 10. It is really too early to tell anything about him yet. It is also a huge knee jerk to say bev is better. Also Lin dominates in the pick and roll. If we had a good PnR player like dwight his numbers and Hardens are sure to go up. I thought he had a solid season as a first year starter and will improve. You just cant continue to trade players left and right you have to stick with them and let them improve. Throwing him under the bus way too early.
     
  20. Knickskiller

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    You mean they should have kept TD?
     

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