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Sacramento Bee Editorial cartoon

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bobrek, Apr 27, 2013.

  1. HayesStreet

    HayesStreet Member

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    Your position that someone has to prove a counter factual true before criticising Perry's stance on regulation is silly. Impossible, and therefore useless. In light of West one can reasonably say "should we more strictly regulate **** that might blow up a town?" When you ask that question Perry moves firmly into the picture.
     
  2. BamBam

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    In my opinion, it's a shot at Perry at the expense of the victims.
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  3. SwoLy-D

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    Aye.

    It's a situation where people DIED. You don't mess with what. :eek: Have respect for them and their families to not have to be reminded of that situation.
     
  4. JuanValdez

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    Don't want to disrespect people who've suffered, but at the same time, the insulation for politicians is a little too convenient. If Texas regulation gambles with people's safety and wins, they brag about what a great place Texas is for doing business; if they gamble and lose, people can't criticize because it'd be 'disrespectful.' Then a culture of laxity is allowed to perpetuate. So, it's disrepectful, but by all means say it anyway.
     
  5. justtxyank

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    Unless your are actually mocking the dead, I have no problem using people's deaths in a political debate as long as the two are directly connected. It's the same when someone dies that's famous. Why should there be a moratorium on speaking ill of them? That's the only time anyone will care!

    If it is actually true that there is a connection between this plant and Texas deregulation or negligence I have no problem with an artist or a writer connecting the two.
     
  6. ipaman

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    Has anybody asked and answered,

    Why is Jack Ohman from the Sacramento Bee in California concerned about Texas and it's regulations/zoning or lack thereof???

    Y U DO CARE???
     
  7. juicystream

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    Because Perry has attempted to make himself into a National figure.
     
  8. ipaman

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    Okay so.... Any cartoons good or bad about his own backyard's rules/regulations?

    Just seems odd that he really cares so much about Texas and it's laws.
     
  9. Nook

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    It is national news.... it was a big deal, many people died... and Perry is advertising on the radio, buying advertisements trying to get buisness' to move to Texas. He is a public figure... he ran for national office.

    Having said that, I have yet to see any proof his deregulation caused the accident.
     
  10. juicystream

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    Perry paid for commercials to encourage companies to move from California to Texas, in part because of lower regulation standards.

    That makes it relevant to someone in California.
     
  11. subtomic

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    Perry is a prominent politician who is regularly visiting businesses in other states to tout Texas' "pro-business" (code for no pesky regulations) laws and urging those businesses to come to Texas. If there was a major accident in California, I'm sure there would be all kinds of political cartoons mocking those silly California tourist advertisements.
     
  12. ipaman

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    IF, and it's a big IF, regulations caused this accident, was this fertilizer company one of the companies that moved from California?
     
  13. Refman

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    Nobody ever said that Perry's stance on regulation shouldn't be examined. However, directly linking him to this explosion without the benefit of facts is just dumb.
     
  14. BamBam

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    I agree!! IN a political debate/forum/enquiry or editorial. If Perry's negligent
    policies are what caused this tragedy then they should be exposed and he should be
    held accountable. Furthermore they should be corrected to insure that this situation
    doesn't repeat itself in the future.

    I don't agree that this tragedy should be used in a cartoon! To me this is not
    the appropriate way to address this tragedy! It's disrespectful to the families of the
    victims and shows lack of compassion. The only thing that I get from this cartoon is
    the artists attempt to be clever!

    Artist:
    "Did you see how I used BOOM with the economy and the explosion that killed innocent
    people?" Did you get it...Did you get it...Am I clever or what?..Yea I know I'm bad!
    Thats why I get paid the big bucks!

    Perry is smiling while people get killed?....Really?
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  15. glynch

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    Stupid style deregulation can too often lead to death whether in a fertilizer plant or a Bangladesh sweat shop collapse.

    It is disrespectful of the victims to not trumpet the lesson that should be learned to prevent other such tragedies.
     
  16. juicystream

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    No, but doesn't mean you wouldn't be trying to disuade companies leaving, or a deregulation movement.
     
  17. RedRedemption

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    The execution could have been better... but the political cartoon was drawn to make a point. Perry effectively killed those people himself with those lax regulatory protocols.
     
  18. juicystream

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    Or didn't.
     
  19. RedRedemption

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    Above all else, I still don't agree using tragedies to prove political points.
     
  20. Refman

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    Maybe...if it can be proven that the lack of regulation had anything to do with this tragedy. That is my entire point here. Until we know all of the facts, it is premature to be pointing fingers at the governor or anybody else.
     

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