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[NEWS] Explosions near Boston Marathon Finish Line (UPDATE: MIT/Watertown shootout w/ suspects)

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  1. marky :)

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    They were already being chased right? I'm thinking they were going to use the Chinese guy as some sort of human shield if they got cornered or something.
     
  2. Nice Rollin

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    the chinese guy was their hostage....it's that easy
     
  3. The Real Shady

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    It makes sense if you think about it. It's much easier to pull a trigger from a distance or plant a bomb and walk away killing people than it is to get to know a hostage and execute them. Much more personal and cold blooded.
     
  4. Indaface

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    Yea I'm almost certain it was an immigrant thing. I guarantee if it was a rich white guy they would have offed him after taking his money. This guy plays it as he's just here as a student from China (similar to what they were at some point) makes it harder for them to kill him clood blooded.
     
  5. The Real Shady

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    Even then I'm not sure. If you have someone in your car possibly crying and begging for their life it's still more difficult because they've been humanized. Perhaps the older brother would have but I doubt the younger one could have.
     
  6. mleahy999

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    These two brothers are like total amateurs. They had no money and needed the carjack victim for ATM cash. Freakin' welfare terrorists.
     
  7. bobmarley

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    I think it also helps because he was so helpful. They went to three ATMs and he tried to do everything they asked of him.
     
  8. basso

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    Apparently the hostage has already spoke out on this at least to the investigators handling the case.

    Link:
    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/22/17860373-officials-hospitalized-bombing-suspect-says-he-and-brother-acted-alone-motivated-by-religion?lite
     
  10. oldgunrules

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    1. They were not admitting "guilt". Simply trying the intimidate the victim.
    2. A young Chinese guy with accent is not as threatening as a police officer.
    3. If you are insinuating that somehow this victim is part of the plot, then think about this: what would be a better way to help your friends than running to the police and giving your partners an SUV that has a built-in GPS tracking system?

    I am no detective, but I think the story is real. If he didn't escape the brothers could've gone all the way to New York. Our Chinese Danny boy not only did himself proud, but also most likely have saved many lives.
     
  11. RV6

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    Hostage

    Pin # for money


    What you are not realizing is they could have still killed him after they used him. That's probably why they didn't care if he heard them.

    The problem is the media's rush to provide news leaves a lot open to interpretation. They knew he was a hostage and wasn't killed, so the assumption is they let him live, but they probably didn't have the whole story, which is he escaped, while he was being used.
     
  12. basso

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    Exclusive: Government doc shows how closely Boston Marathon bombers followed al Qaeda plans

    REUTERS
    Boston Marathon bomb scene pictures taken by investigators show the remains of an explosive device. The photos were produced by the Joint Terrorism Task Force of Boston.

    By Richard Esposito, NBC News Senior Executive Producer for Investigations
    A detailed analysis of the bombs used at the Boston Marathon and during a firefight between the suspects and law enforcement shows how closely the bombmakers followed instructions from the digital al Qaeda magazine “Inspire,” according to a government document obtained by NBC News.

    The unclassified report from the Terrorist Explosive Device Analytical Center found that the pipe bombs allegedly thrown from a car by Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev during last Friday’s chase through Watertown, Mass., resembled the design described in “How to Make a Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom,” an article in the first issue of the English-language magazine. At least one of the Watertown bombs used an elbow pipe wrapped in black tape, as discussed in “Inspire.”

    “The use of elbow pipes specifically is unique,” states the report, “and rare in other extremist and anarchist literature.”

    “How to Build a Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom” also provided instructions on how to build bombs with kitchen pressure cookers. The bombs detonated at the marathon on April 15 were constructed from pressure cookers, as was a bomb authorities say the suspects threw at police during the Watertown shootout. Tamerlan Tsarnaev, a 26-year-old immigrant of Chechen origin, was killed during the confrontation.

    According to the TEDAC analysis, the pressure-cooker bombs also match the “Inspire” designs in their use of spherical shrapnel and gunpowder from fireworks, as well as the possible use of Christmas tree lights as an initiator.

    The pipe bombs also used fireworks and spherical shrapnel. Both types of devices apparently used glue to secure the shrapnel, as described in “Inspire.” NBC is not disclosing details that could aid in the construction of a bomb.

    Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who survived the Watertown shootout and was captured last Friday night, has told investigators that he and his brother Tamerlan got bombmaking instructions from “Inspire,” according to law enforcement officials.

    The TEDAC document, however, notes while the elements of the Boston bombs “use similar components to those described in several issues of ‘Inspire,’” they also diverge from the “Inspire” designs, with different triggers and power sources. A fusing system that used parts from a toy car, say the investigators, does not seem traceable to the magazine.

    “Inspire” magazine was launched by al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, al Qaeda’s Yemeni affiliate, in July 2010, and aimed at fomenting jihad among U.S. and other Western Muslims. The publication included messages from radical U.S.–born cleric Anwar al-Awlaki and Osama bin Laden, and was edited by U.S.-raised jihadi Samir Khan, a one-time basement blogger in North Carolina who relocated to Yemen. It contained articles on “open source” jihad, urging Westerners to mount “lone wolf” attacks using methods ranging from home-made bombs and forest fires to vehicular homicide.

    Khan was killed in the same U.S. strike that killed Awlaki on Sept. 30, 2011.
    The Terrorist Explosive Device Analytical Center is an interagency organization located at the FBI laboratory in Quantico, Va., with a director from the FBI and other officials from the ATF, the Pentagon and the intelligence community.

    http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_new...marathon-bombers-followed-al-qaeda-plans?lite
     
  13. AroundTheWorld

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    The mother of the Dzarnaev brothers was also on an FBI terror list.

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    Has this horrible witch even once apologized to the victims of the terror sons she raised?

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    I don't think so. She keeps blaming the USA, etc.

    What a horrible person.

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  14. brantonli24

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    Wow, how the hell did they cross Watertown THREE times? Apparently their apartment was also really close to the highway as well. I'm really confused by their escape plans, once they managed to get on the highway, they would (almost) be home free.
     
  15. Severe Rockets Fan

    Severe Rockets Fan Takin it one stage at a time...

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    Her pride and arrogance is disgusting, I bet she knew damn well he had affliations to terrorists, she's just playing this B.S. oblivious mother role...she deserves whatever sentence the younger brother will get just for raising these pieces of human crap.

    And what's up with the father and his sunglasses? Afraid someone might recoginize him?
     
  16. Air Langhi

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    What about holmes's mother? This whole trying to find someone to blame argument is just stupid. That is why we wasted trillions of dollars on dumb wars.
     
  17. AroundTheWorld

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    Incoherent post.

    Did Holmes' mother claim her son didn't do it and that he is an angel that was set up by the evil USA, with obvious hate in her face?

    Nope, she didn't.

    She said "You have the right person".

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/auror...d-james-holmes/story?id=16818889#.UXvot9DXMmc
     
  18. Severe Rockets Fan

    Severe Rockets Fan Takin it one stage at a time...

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    Uh, ok. You think she'll even care what happened to the dead/injured once she knows for sure her lovely sons did it? Hell no she won't...she's a disgusting human being who raised disgusting kids...I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings.
     
  19. rimrocker

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    I guess you could blame her for raising someone who didn't know how to deal with women, escaped into drugs and music, and was incapable of getting along very long within the larger society, not to mention setting up the odd relationship between Sherlock and Mycroft.
     
  20. Major

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    Or, the alternative scenario is that she isn't actually affiliated with terrorism and knows she's on the terrorism watch list (as are many non-terrorists), making her preemptively distrusting of the US. Then she is told that two kids she raised went psycho on the world and is in disbelief. She has not spoken to them and is on the other side of the world. It's not too far-fetched to think she would be confused and turn that into conspiracy. And if she does believe that, then she obviously wouldn't apologize if she doesn't think her sons did anything wrong. If you're expected a grieving mother to rationally weigh facts and analyze evidence, I think you're going to be disappointed every time.

    But hey, it's good to know we've gone from judge & jury to simple sentencing people through guilt by conjecture.

    Really? :confused:
     

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