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Ric Bucher says Daryl Morey = David Khan

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by seyton, Dec 27, 2012.

  1. conquistador#11

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    I had almost forgotten that it was ric who said,"you a rockets fan?"
     
  2. juicystream

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    I agree with you. White isn't necessarily a wasted pick like was suggested. I call him a bust today, because he could easily turn it around and be a rotation player next year. Marcus Morris had performance and attitude issues last year. He looked like a bust, but now he's a rotation player.

    It is interesting that most people are patient with DMo & Jones, who were more or less beaten out of a backup spot by Greg Smith and Morris.
     
  3. roslolian

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    It's not that people can't take criticism, it's that your criticism is either blown out of proportion or invalid. That's what I keep saying but keep twisting it into "oh people here worship Morey so you can't criticize him".

    Everyone who wants to criticize Morey here does it for the wrong things, like the White pick. Bucher, Honeybear and I guess you latch onto it like it's some great mistake, but White was only the 17th pick in the draft. In other words that's a non-lottery pick. I dunno man, is a whiff on a 17th pick worth going crazy over? It was a gamble sure, but at the 17th pick you're better of taking a risky pick than getting a solid role player, esp. when we already have so many solid players on the team. It didn't seem to pan out, but then again at the 17th pick I wouldn't cry over it. Compare that to Kahn who whiffed on lottery picks Wesley Johnson (number 3?), Johnny Flynn (number 4?), and Derrick Williams (number 2).

    FYI I think one valid criticism is trying to gamble everything on low character superstars like Melo and DH, two who have already publicly stated they will leave for NYC/Brooklyn the moment their contract expires.
     
  4. crash5179

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    Luck is what happens when preparation meets opertunity

    That should be Daryl Morey's mantra. Even though he may not have had any idea that James Harden would be available a few years ago, he has been preparing for that trade for years. That's the difference between Daryl Morey and Kahn. One is pro-active and always preparing for the next move even though he does not know what that move will be while the othe is reactive.

    That James Harden became available for trade when he did was pure luck, but the fact that Daryl Morey was ready to act when others were not had nothing to do with luck.
     
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    You know, you'd have a much stronger point here if the league consisted of only 3 teams rather than 30.
     
  6. Grigori

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    You know what the funny thing is? Over in the MIN forums, their reaction to this funny article is "OMG Ric Bucher gives Khan high praises, says he's Daryl Morey!"

    :)
     
  7. topfive

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    When they prefer tweeting to practicing.
     
  8. watashi315

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    Best line ever! Are you familiar with your own team's roster???
     
  9. Der Rabbi

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    Bucher's a Mavs fan ... anything else need to be said?
     
  10. cbk41

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    What are you, a Rockets Fan?
     
  11. emjohn

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    Most of you are going a little overboard in reaction to the piece. Bucher isn't trying to dog Morey as being awful, or necessarily trying to say that Morey = Kahn.

    The point of it was that media-friendly Morey gets fluffed up a bit by the media while media-unfriendly Kahn gets nut-kicked by the media at every opportunity.

    To a certain degree, he's right. Morey has dodged a lot of potential flak for moves the past few years, where Kahn gets roasted any time he goofs.

    Ultimately, success in this league comes down to postseason appearances and how deep into May/June you get. Neither GM can do much bragging at this point.
     
  12. Honey Bear

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    Westbrook will never be an efficient guy. That's not his game - to play in a Chris Paul type manner. His game is to dominate and wear out opponents .. and eventually hope his jumper starts falling after his 20th FG. The important thing, like Ibaka, is he has all the raw tools in place and is very young.

    Harden can knock down jumpers and overpower smaller players when they aren't set - but can he really create the separation to thrive in a half court O with a tightening D? He doesn't have to in the regular season with the way the Rockets play but he will have to in the playoffs. That's my only Q regarding him. I think he's a great player - but IMO Westbrook has a higher playoff ceiling.

    Yeah - you have to play the cards you're dealt. And that's where Morey shuffled incessantly but never really dealt over 4 years. Was Morey really "not allowed to tank" - do you have a link or anything concrete? I'm not here to play the "what if" game and swap Morey with Presti, but it was the reluctance to tank, lateral moves that got the fanboys wet and misunderstanding of players like Howard, Bosh and their wants that was laughable. I'll say it once, I'll say it again - all his little moves and tinkering culminated in ... Pau Gasol. That is the spitting image of a guy heavy on stats and low on BBall IQ.

    But that's the past, he has a clean slate with harden... and hopefully it works out. The point of this article was pointing out the audience reaction to a twitter friendly, media accessible guy like Morey vs an outspoken guy like Kahn. In the end , this is a results driven game, not who has the most friends and spreadsheet modlels.
     
  13. cbk41

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    You have to take some home-run swings every once in a while or else your moves will never turn out spectacular--they'll be safe and it will only perpetuate mediocrity.

    Here's a quote from the movie Lincoln about Euclid:

    Euclid's first common notion is this: Things which are equal to the same things are equal to each other. That's a rule of mathematical reasoning and its true because it works - has done and always will do. In his book Euclid says this is self evident. You see there it is even in that 2000 year old book of mechanical law it is the self evident truth that things which are equal to the same things are equal to each other.
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    People are offended because they believe Murray is a great GM ( and in my opinion they are justified in thinking so), and the general notion is that Khan is a joke and a terrible one. As Euclid postulated and how temperature is defined, saying one thing = another thing is implying that those qualities translate. Khan=Bad; Morey=Khan; Morey=Bad.
     
  14. Zergling

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    We are quite lucky to have Morey as our GM. Nothing else needs to be said.
     
  15. emcitymisfit

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    A few years? He was saying that this summer when he was arguing with Josh Innes.
     
  16. kaleidosky

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    You're trolling..fine. But at least mention that it was Gasol and Nene that were going to be the cornerstones of that team. Who knows what Nene would have been like on that team and how they would have all worked together. It's silly to assume he didn't have a vision since we didn't get to see it play out..
     
  17. Invisible Fan

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    No. Kahn made a **** load of goofs. Bucher could've made the same comparison to many other GMs with similar record and nothing to show for it.

    Devil's in the details, and Opie has none.
     
  18. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Morey is so much like Kahn they fired Khan after Morey signed an extention
     
  19. nono

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    Bucher is the worst of the worst.
     
  20. SeabrookMiglla

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    morey has been flipping young PF's with potential like madness the past few years. ironically now all we need is a good PF lol hes like- "1 step ahead of you boss"
     

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