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Warriors' Owner on Cutting Jeremy Lin

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rocketsjudoka, Apr 24, 2013.

  1. Visagial

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    Can't blame GS in retrospect. They did the exact right thing for their team.

    Honestly, unless Lin's shot really develops, he'll struggle to stay in the league after this contract is up. He won't be young and promising anymore and where he is right now may not get him a roster spot, let alone a starting job.
     
  2. dantian

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    As a Lin fan who followed him to this board from NYK, I fully agree that cutting him was the sensible decision GS made then. Linsanity was a rare circumvential event, which would never have happened in GS or Houston, thus justifying that cut by this fact alone.
     
  3. kastuul

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    The Knicks fans/medias are much more terrible in handling the Lin's thing,
    particularly they think Lin and Felton are comparable.

    Felton is a PG drafted after Cp3 and D-Will.
     
  4. Joe Joe

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    I don't see how cutting Lin was responsible for the Warriors improving. Warriors made as big a mistake as Rockets did. I understand why they did it, but like Rockets, they misjudged his talent.
     
  5. rocketsfan4

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    Here's how I would rate Curry versus Lin in the 3 categories relative to other PGs that I look at if we take a snapshot at this moment in their careers. I realize that both have substantial upside, and there are areas that each can and will improve:

    Curry, Lin

    Shooting: A+, C+
    Penetration: C+, A
    Foul drawing: D, B
    Passing: B-, A-
    Ballhandling: A-, B-
    Individual defense: C+, A-
    Team defense/switch post defense: C+, A
    Rebounding: C, B
    Hustle/loose balls/shotblocking/team play: B-, A
    Durability/toughness: C, A
     
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  6. SuperStar

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    Curry has a special skills that very few NBA players has. He can flat out shoot. Even if Lin beats him in like 10 other categories, it doesn't really matter.
     
  7. LikeMike

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    I don`t know if I would agree... The Rockets have the bigger star in Harden (though you could argue that it`s pretty close) - but the rest of the roster, GS clearly wins imho. Lee is a double double machine that can`t defend. Bogut is an elite defender - Barnes and Thompson are both probably more talented than anyone on our roster not named Harden.

    GSW have lots of talent. There are some questions about defense, about killer instict and of course, how their talent will progress. But from a pure roster stand point, outside of the two superstars, they are clearly a step ahead of us.

    Our big advantage are some bargain contracts and our capspace... and I´d say we are a more attractive destinations for FAs.
     
  8. rocketsfan4

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    I agree. I did not weight the categories. Shooting is a critical category, and it is a must-have in today's NBA. Avery Johnson for example would have a tough time leading a championship team today.
     
  9. kastuul

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    My opinion

    Curry, Lin(HOU), Lin(NYK)

    Shooting: A+, C+, B-
    Penetration: B+, A-, A
    Foul drawing: C, B+, A
    Passing: B+, A-, A
    Ballhandling: A-, B, C
    Individual defense: C+, B, C+
    Team defense/switch post defense: C+, B, C
    Rebounding: C, B, B-
    Hustle/loose balls/shotblocking/team play: B-, B+, A-
    Durability/toughness: C, B, A
     
  10. Bandwagoner

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    lin's grade is too high. i am thinking about B
     
  12. Joe Joe

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    Why is it Lin versus Curry? There are 15 roster spots on a team. Unless a team is a contender, it is a mistake to cut a good young player unless you have 15 better young players.

    Teams trying to make a lot of roster changes to find talent are going to make mistakes. This is one of them. Knowing what the warriors know now, they would have cut someone else instead of Lin.
     
  13. SamFisher

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    The Warriors have a substantially superior player in his position - how could it have made them better to have benched him in favor of the weaker Lin? At best, Lin would be competing with Jarrett Jack for backup minutes - and Jack in his limited playing time is shooting substantially better than Lin has with the ROckets, so it's unclear if he's even a value-add there. I don't think you could play Lin at off-guard instead of Klay thompson either or else you'd have 2 midgets.

    if it's not clear at this point that the Linsanity spurt was a confluence of circumstances unlikely to be repeated rather than the new normal, I don't know how much we need to say.

    And btw I actually like Lin and am glad he's on the Rockets.
     
  14. rocketsfan4

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    Agree completely. The owner missed the boat and is trying to cover his tracks on this. You keep your best players. I can easily envision a Curry-Lin backcourt, as Curry can shoot the lights out, and Lin can defend some smaller SGs or even bigger ones that don't post well. At worst you keep your best redundant player and use him as a trade chip.

    After watching the Warriors for years, I really, really don't like that franchise.
     
  15. j3i

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    Just realized Curry's 3P shooting % is actually higher than his FG%. If he learns how to finish better at the rim he'll be the 2nd member of the 50-45-90 club after Nash.
     
  16. tinman

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    There's only one Jeremy Lin, there's not 2 of him.

    Cleanse your mind of this NY Linsanity stuff. It's over . It gave Jeremy a fat contract and a job as a full time starter.

    There's only one Lin. And he's playing for the Rockets.
     
  17. kastuul

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    Of course I know it is over.
    I just said which things he has better or worse.

    His mid range jumper was really impressive last year.
     
  18. ivanyy2000

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    Lin need to improve his shooting, end of story.

    Yeah, his long range has improved every month this season. But it is still shaky. And he doesn't totally trust his shot. He will be hesitant to shoot if he misses a couple jumpers in the first QT of the game.

    I am fine with other asepects of his skills, above average, if you ask me. But the shooting is below average.
     
  19. howo13579

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    The article sounds like CYA (cover your ass) attempt. Golden State turns out well but cutting Lin has nothing to do with it. Think about Lin with min wage backing up Curry. Golden State could've been much better than they are now. Bottom line is everybody misjudged his talent until Dantoni's desperation move.
     
  20. SamFisher

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    Uh, ok.

    <PRE>
    Rk Player Season Age G MP PER TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS WS WS/48
    1 Jarrett Jack 2012-13 29 79 2349 15.9 .542 .499 1.0 10.1 5.7 29.8 1.3 0.4 14.3 21.0 110 108 3.9 1.8 5.6 .115
    2 Jeremy Lin 2012-13 24 82 2640 14.9 .538 .490 1.4 9.1 5.3 29.4 2.5 0.8 18.8 20.8 106 107 3.0 2.5 5.4 .099
    </PRE>

    Looks liek the warriors get a bit worse sicne Jack is a much better spot up shooter this year, at best it's a wash.
     

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