You just can't disregard our history as bullies not playing a factor. What if the power nation of Switzerland air raided us and killed hundreds of our kids every month? you'd be a little upset right? just a little maybe? It's pretty disturbing that innocent lives have to suffer due to politicians, silly books that are taken way too literal by christians, children of abraham and muslims. I've given up though..it's not going to change.
To those who say that Russia's request to look into Tamerlan was enough: 1) That doesn't tell us enough information -- how many of these types of requests does Russia send through every year? Signal to noise ratio? 2) Even if you think Russia's request WAS enough, then shouldn't the mosque have been under even more of an obligation to report Tamerlan?
Doesn't matter. People have outbursts at churches, synagogues, mosques all the time. It means they disagree with the preacher. It almost never means the person is going to carry out a terrorist operation. Moreover, it's not their job to prevent terrorism. It's the government's job to protect citizens and protect them from such stuff. The opportunity to self-police is there for everyone. But Muslims don't want it, not because they don't believe in voluntary advisory. But because they do not agree that they are part of the same ideology as those people despite the fact that they all call themSELVES Muslim. Self policing is never going to be a viable option, ever. It is illogical, stupid, and given what we know today extremely predatory to suggest. There are specific people responsible for carrying out this crime, and specific people responsible for preventing/remedying it. So unless you plan to begin policing your own for the first time ever, stop expecting people to fulfill this ludicrously concocted social responsibility. Why the F would American liberals be opposed to something that makes sense and would legitimately sort out this problem and bring them additional security? What makes more sense... that this is a stupid idea that only a small group of ideological people believe in, or that 1-2 billion Muslims plus liberal Americans all don't want things to get better? Jeez you're a grown ass man. If you're going to clown around with something like this, at least bring some concrete suggestions to the table which have not failed since the beginning of time.
Sammy and others -- do you think Islam had absolutely NOTHING to do with the Tsarnaev brothers' actions? Zero?
See this is the problem. People say, "oh well it's not my job!". Well it sure would be nice if you had an attitude of "how can I help!". You'd think after so many killings with the terrorists saying they did it due to Islam that the attitude would be a bit different than "that's the government's job". "I'm not going to do anything...not my job!" THIS Muslim attitude is the problem.
I think this had more to do with it. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/tsarnaev-condition-motive-wars-193132367.html
Honestly the guy never read the Quran and if he did he had poor comprehension so first I'd check his iq and then I'd prob go on to check his mental state of being. Your not supposed to kill ppl, ESP innocent ppl and property. It's kind of ridiculous to blame Islam because I guarantee half the idiots doing stupid acts haven't studied it. I know educated Muslims and liberal and strict and they all agree what these dumbasses did was wrong.
^Furthermore, the younger brother doesn't even fall in line with a practicing Muslim. Him partying after the bombing is proof. Texx to answer your question. Wahhabism is the problem. You know the same people Dubya kissed on the lips. Obama isn't any better in this regard. They're spending tons of money to spread their hate. They're killing so many Shia Muslims in places like Pakistan as we speak. Stopping buses and killing anyone with a Shia sounding name. Targeting Shia professionals such as doctors, lawyers, etc.
I think that's very wishful thinking on your part, and not consistent with what's being reported. You had to reach to a blog called "lookout" to find your world view. http://www.salon.com/2013/04/23/tsarnaev_my_brother_wanted_to_defend_islam/ Tsarnaev: My brother wanted to defend Islam CNN — which erroneously reported Wednesday that an arrest in the case had been made — cited a U.S. government source. The network reports that: Preliminary interviews with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev indicate the two brothers fit the classification of self-radicalized jihadists, the source said. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, wounded and held in a Boston hospital, said his brother wanted to defend Islam from attack, according to the source. That source also told CNN that Dzhokhar that they planned the attack themselves without any outside help. The source said that the government continues to try and independently verify Dzhokhar’s account. Earlier today, it was reported that Dzhokhar was writing down answers to questions from investigators. He was charged Monday with “using and conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction.”
Tamarlan attended mosque and both of them had prayed at an Islamic prayer center in the Boston area. It's a bit of a stretch to claim they hadn't read the Quran.
I think there's something to this. There can be no doubt that some Muslims believe that their terrorist acts are sanctioned by Islam. Their prophet was a warlord who wanted Jewish tribes executed (e.g., Banu Qayuqa) and even included Quranic verses for the Muslims to fight the Meccans. Too many places to find a loophole.
this I'm reminded of an anecdote When a reporter asked Mohammad Ali how he felt about 911 suspects sharing his Islamic faith, Ali pleasantly responded “How do you feel about Hitler sharing yours?”
I don't wish for anything. This is a lose-lose situation. A lot of people are citing this US official close to the investigation about the main motives. Also, you discrediting the source was predictable.
Yeah, they have plenty of Muslims in Canada and they don't seem to be a target very often. If we took such actions as sincerely apologized and made restitution for invading Iraq and occupying Afghanistan instead of just going after Bin Laden, renounced support right or wrong for Israeli policies, quit threatening Iran and put Dubya, Cheney and gang in the Hague it would probably do more to diminish such terrorism in the US than surveillance 24/7 of all the Muslims in the US.
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