Random Houston Rockets Trade Ideas - 2012-13

Those guys are FAs who are likely to leave Utah anyway, which will be rebuilding without them (hence the need for young players). Plus White's contract is basically an expiring deal next year.

 

Houston trade - Motiejunas or Robinson, Parsons, Asik, Delfino, Lin
Houston in - Aldridge, Stiemsma

Minnesota trade - Love, Stiemsma
Minnesota in - Matthews, Motiejunas or Robinson, Parsons, 1st-rd pick

Portland trade - Aldridge, Matthews
Portland in - Love, Asik, Delfino

Utah trade - 1st-rd pick
Utah in - Lin

I'm not LOF or LOH

Houston sign Josh Smith

Houston
c - Stiemsma
pf - Aldridge
sf - Smith
sg - Harden
pg - Beverley

Minnesota
c - Pekovic
pf - Williams
sf - Parsons
sg - Matthews
pg - Rubio

Portland
c - Asik
pf - Love
sf - Batum
sg - Delfino
pg - Lillard

:grin:

 

Parsons + Motie + Paul Milsap(S/T) + Alec Burks + PHX 2nd rounder to MIN

Lin + Carlos Del-fine-O + NO 2nd round pick 2014 (Via MIN) + 2014 HOU 1st(trade made on draft night or after) to Utah

KLove + Ridnour


I don't know what our cap would look like after that but I assume we'd have enough room to go after either an athletic defensive wing(Iggy/Tony Allen/Corey Brewer/JR Smith[])


or a PG if we don't trust Beverley/Ridnour/Brooks (Jarrett Jack/Mo Williams, nothing special but decent starters until we can get something better.)


Maybe trade some spare parts for a decent wing(Smith/Jones/TRob).


Realistic line-up

Beverley/Brooks/Ridnour

Harden/Allen/Ridnour

Brewer/Allen/Jones

Love/Jones/Smith

Asik/Dalembert/Smith

 

should we trade for Bledsoe?

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/clippers/post/_/id/4474/eric-bledsoe-rises-to-the-challenge

 

They're both FA, but Utah will undoubtedly try to retain at least one (prob Al). And I doubt Milsap will command a max deal (and shame on anyone who does pony up that kinda scratch for him), so S&T is really unnecessary... I believe White has a 4 year deal (with the 4th year being a team option) so he would still be drain on cap room for next year and year after - til he can be kicked to the curb... At this point, I have to believe Lin's 8m/yr contract is at best a wash - no real value for play vs pay...

 

That's way too much to give up Cousins. Two 1st rounders, Asik, and Lin. We would be the clear loser of that deal. Sacramento would part with him for less I'd bet.

 

That's just terrible for the Rockets. Asik, Parsons, and Lin for Aldrige essentially? He's a really good player, but not that good. Portland would win that trade by a mile.

 

I'd try to make a move for Demarcus Cousins. Potentially Lin, Delfino (expiring contract to free up cap space), TJones or D-Mo, and maybe some picks for Cousins and Chuck Hayes. NBA Trade Machine seems to think that Lin/Young PF straight up would work, but I think it would take more.

Best thing about this trade: the Chuck Wagon is included! He hardly plays for Sacramento and they are paying him about $5.5 million. He's obviously a fan favorite in Houston, and he could provide defensive intensity off the bench that we lack down low.

Sacramento will love the thought of Jeremy Lin because he has a lot of potential, yes, but he also will bring in a ton of revenue to a franchise that is struggling financially, and will be looking for a cash cow in Seattle, which they will have in Lin. The young PF, and possibly the picks, just sweeten the deal.

Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but I think it's pretty fair. Especially with Sacramento not really loving Cousins behavior, and with the moving the franchise situation. Thoughts?

 

I'd trade for him, but I don't know what they'd want. They were looking for a PF, but I don't think they'd want to experiment with one of our prospect PFs

 

yea, bleds a bad azz

isn't he a free agent after this season?

if so I wouldn't mind picking him up and josh smith then trade lin and Asik for Cousins.

Then we'd look like

bled
harden
parsons
smooth
cousins

defense wouldn't be a problem for this group as a collective whole. We'd be pretty Fierce

we also need a stopper and a back up center as well, so I'd try T-rob and a 2nd for wesley johnson and Haddadi or whatever his name is...

bench would look like

bev
delfino
wesley <<< great wing stopper to help parsons, can create and shoot
tj the 3 aswell
haddadi

if j.smooth doesn't work out next season just flip him with an asset for Aldridge or Love 2014.

 

Honestly I think the likelihood of trading Lin is low so I just am leaving it out of the scenario for now. Here's a trade that I think could be really good:

HOUSTON IN: Demarcus Cousins, Gordon Hayward
HOUSTON OUT: Parsons, Beverley, 1 Young PF (Smith, T Jones, or DMo), Thomas Robinson, and Delfino (expiring contracts are pretty valuable especially to a rebuilding team).

UTAH IN: Isaiah Thomas, Thomas Robinson
UTAH OUT: Gordon Hayward

SACRAMENTO IN: Parsons, Beverley, Young PF that they want of the 3 (Smith, T Jones, or DMo), Delfino ($3 million expiring contract).
SACRAMENTO OUT: Demarcus Cousins, Isaiah Thomas.

Then maybe throw a pick at Sacramento if it's necessary. Thoughts? Is it fair/ do you even like it?

 

I don't know if this proposal has been posted or even thought of but here goes:

I believe Morey's target for the summer is Cousins. Similar to the Harden situation last summer, Sacramento is going to have to decide if they want to give Cousins the max. They can afford it but new ownership may not want to make that type of investment considering Cousins' up and down year and his immaturity. The Rox on the other hand have an HOF coach and a young winning team which might be quite appealing to Cousins.

The trade that works currently is Asik and Parsons for Cousins and Outlaw.
I'd hate to move Parsons but in order to get something you must give something. This trade would also still leave the Rox in a position to pursue another big time FA ( Bynum ) ( I know I'm crazy and he's hurt ). I'm not a capologist but I believe that the new contract for Cousins wouldn't begin until the 2014 -15 season so his 2013 salary would still be in effect.

Fire away! I'm wearing my Fire r****dant Clothing!

 

Much of this will be dependant on what happens in the decision to move the team to Seattle or if Sacramento keeps the kings.

If the Seattle group wins out, you can almost guarantee ownership will A. get rid of any bad contracts they can, and B. Build around Cousins. Take a look at what type of people would be buying the Kings. Most of these software folks got where they are today because they are very, very small people. Also wouldn't be shocked if they looked at Sam Hinkie as a potential GM candidate.

If Sacramento keeps the Kings, you got a shot at them trading Cousins. Even though there really aren't a ton of teams out there that could offer many assets in trade.

Also the folks in Sacramento have probably been hating every trade that the Rockets have made with Peotrie the past few years, and will be hesitant to really go down this path again. Not to mention this group is so large that its going to take a ton of time and red tape to get a deal done with them. Still, I think you have a better shot at Cousins with this group of owners rather than the Seattle group.

 

Good observation and I tend to agree. I don't know how much of a factor the current King fan base will have on the decision making process, but you're right about them probably not being too happy about past trades witht the Rox. The propsed trade is actually not a bad trade for both teams. Asik offers them defense and with their perimeter oriented offense he may just be what they need. Throw in Parsons and it may be acceptable.

 

I agree, but it's going to be very tough to get him. I wouldn't be surprised if either Asik or Parsons were shipped out at the trade deadline for a double protected lottery pick (similar to the Lowry to Toronto deal). Then we can ship out the remaining player, plus the pick, and a rookie PF for Cousins.

I've started to realize that nobody is going to come cheap. Love, Cousins, Aldridge etc. are all going to demand something close to, but probably not as much as Harden.

Harden was traded for Martin (established veteran), Jeremy Lamb (high upside rookie), a double lottery protected 1st, and the Dallas pick (top 20 protected). Keep in mind that due to the luxury tax, OKC was almost forced to make this trade, which means we actually got a discount for him.

I think we have the established veterans (Asik/Parsons), high upside rookies (TRob, TJones, DMo, Greg Smith), and Dallas level pick (our own 2014 pick). What we lack is that elite 1st round pick which we will probably only get if we trade either Parsons or Asik. Besides that, we need a team like OKC that is motivated to sell. Will Love create enough bad blood with the FO that Minny decides to get rid of him? Will the Kings get tired of Cousins act? Will Portland trade Aldridge in order to facilitate a youth movement?

Just like the Harden trade, the liklihood of any of this happening is small, but you never count Morey out.

 

Good points as well. I do believe that Sacramento management may be growing beyond tired of Cousins. They haven't won with him in 3 seasons and they have some talented players around him. It just seems like a mixed bag with their current team. Everyone needs the ball and so does Cousins. Without him they could go with the perimeter oriented team with a shot blocker presence with Asik. Maybe they add a legit 4 from the draft as a offensive presence or a stretch 4 from the draft. Who knows? This will be an interesting summer again!

 

I have been pondering precisely the same thing.

Is he an emerging star? Can he be a poor man's Russell Westbrook? He gets minutes, but is behind Paul/Billups/Crawford.

The Clippers financial situation has them paying max money to Griffin and soon to be Chris Paul. And they are paying DeAndre Jordan 10+. They are going to need to move Bledsoe as they aren't going to be able to pay him his worth. And this is, afterall, the Clippers.

Could the Rockets look at this squeeze situation similar to what happened with the Thunder with Harden? A situation where there is a top talent (that normally would not be available) but that needs to be moved for financial reasons.

I know the Rockets MAIN concern is getting some post help, but maybe the Rockets could find a way to steal Bledsoe away from the Clipperes.

Could a Bledsoe/Harden backcourt be the new Parker/Ginobili? And then just add in that post player via FA.

Would Morey (and LE$) be willing to give up Lin in a trade? This is another issue altogether in terms of how flexibile Morey is to be able to move the cash cow of Lin for a potentially better PG fit with a higher ceiling. (BTW, I am not down on Lin, but I don't think he has much room for growth).

Also, I know the cap numbers for Lin/Bledsoe don't match up but pieces could be added to work something out.

I am not overly high on Terence Jones, Thomas Robinson or Donatas. (The Patterson for Robinson trade was good though. Better tradable asset). I don't see any of those being full time starters. They all look to me like at best, could be servicable role players. I am not sure Jones or Robinson will be anything more than a Carl Landry type player. So, I am very much willing to move any of them for a higher ceiling player. Bledsoe could be that guy.

(Then convince Dwight to join Harden/Bledsoe as the new YOUNG big 3 ;-) )

 

If we strike out on Dwight/CP3 this off-season, the next target would be Pau Gasol.

- Lakers will be in luxury tax hell and will inevitably trade Gasol for young prospects and/or picks

- Rockets would love to have Gasol for next season as he would give the team a legit post presence at the 4 position. Pau can also slide to the center spot whenever Asik goes to the bench.

- With Pau's contract expiring after next season, the Rockets will maintain cap flexibility and would still be one of the major bidders for the coveted 2014 free agency (LeBron,Love,Aldridge etc.).

 

My dream scenario goes as follows...

Let Garcia and delfino go (not pick up team option)...

Trade t.rob+ our early 2nd for future 1st rd pick...

trade Royce +3 mill for future 2nd rd pick...

Sign Dwight...

Portland signs pekovic to a contract Minnesota doesn't match(12mill or so)...

Trade asik, Parsons, d.mo, and two future 1sts to Minnesota for Love...

Use mle to sign Wesley Johnson to around 5 mill for 3yrs...

Sign Tony Allen to about 3mill for 3yrs...

Furkan Aldemir comes over...

Our lineup would be

Pg - Lin/Beverly/Harden
Sg - Harden/Allen/Anderson
Sf - Wesley/Allen/Anderson
Pf - Love/T.Jones/Smith
C - Dwight/Smith/Furkan

Thoughts?

 

The way we **** on Lin, his own teams fans, why would anyone want to trade for him?