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Harden is overrated

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Sydeffect, Apr 18, 2013.

  1. Gertso

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    Some? I think that's being optimistic...
     
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    Harden's D is weak.
    And he should develop his turnaround fadeaway jumper.
    Stop dribble the ball too long.
     
  4. crimmy88

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    I agree that Harden has fallen off since the ASB. I think he settles more now and just shoots bad contested 3 pointers. Sometimes he makes them but more often than not, he bricks them.
     
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    We finish 1 spot out of the playoffs for the last three years. Now we finally make it back & you guys want to torch the person who is most responsible for us being there. :confused:

    Even the mighty Hakeem Olajuwon had a bad game or two... OK two at the most, but he had them.

    & Yes, It would have been nice to have been the 6th or 7th seed, but, I'm sorry to tell you that, without him we would have been lucky to finish in 9th again.

    We're back in the playoffs so it's time to sit back and smell the roses. Even if they wilt 4-5 games in, our future is bright. I for one am going to enjoy the ride.
     
  6. Han Solo

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    Wtf is harden supposed to do when he gets no calls as he drives to the basket? It takes away his game. STFU you stupid Lin fans...Lin isn't the answer as much as you wish it were. Hes an avg player, thats it. Harden is the key to us winning anything. I'm happy were in the playoffs and i knew the refs would push the game toward the Lakers, but right now most of all i can't stand these stupid LOF's. It's as ridiculous as saying "why did Dwade keep shooting? Why didn't Chalmers shoot 20 times?"

    GTFOver it LOFs. Jeremey is just another replaceable player. ****. **** the Fakers and **** annoying Lofs's.
     
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  7. JMAD21

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    He's not overrated! But he does have lot's of room for improvement...

    Things that could help him take the next step:
    Work harder on D
    Be more decisive in ISO
    develop a post game
    and just overall be more consistent

    But please remember guys, he's 23 years old! This was his 1st year as a starter! Oh yeah, AND HES 23 YEARS OLD!
     
  8. Honey Bear

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    Harden needs to keep going at it. Houston has the right idea with giving him the ball and letting him do what he wants in a season that doesn't matter. If they acquire certain pieces and become a legit contender, things will change, but until then they have to keep riding him to see where he'll take them. As Han Solo said, everyone else is replaceable and there are 29 other teams with a lot of "good" players. It's the "very good" players that win rings.
     
  9. furior

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    Nah he just needs a better coaching.
     
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    This. I could be wrong but I don't think the list of 23 year old players who were flawless and unstoppable is very long.
     
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    So your saying we added Lin, Chandler Parsons definitely progressed big time, added a real Center, and a "SUPERSTAR" in Harden to move up one spot????

    How low have we all fallen as Rocket fans. YESSSS!!!!! We made the playoffs!!!!!!!

    I don't try to defend Lin so much as I find it completely asinine to read the "older" posters who cry about Lin's Turnovers (Harden is one of the top 2 or 3 in the L in turnovers), how Lins shooting isn't consistant enough (Lin shot better on the year than Harden) or how gun shy Lin is (When your coach benches you for stretches of 15 minutes at a time how is that not a good excuse)

    Reading the game thread it was "waaaah Lin missed a shot" "waaaaah Lin with a turnover" But Harden put up a massive brick wall for half a season yet those same posters only whine about Lin. At least Lin plays fundamentally well, tries to help his teammates out, and isn't about him first. Well at least his coach has his back commenting on 9 turnovers that only Harden ever commits in one game.
     
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    Anyone that says Harden isn't overrated, actually anyone that says Harden isn't THE most overrated player in the NBA -

    obviously never saw the NBA Finals and obviously never saw the Olympics.

    Harden is a ball hog, he has a very low basketball I.Q., he plays no defense, and the only real offensive more he has is the free throw, usually only gotten from ref bail outs, after he flops.

    He is nothing close to a max player, and for anyone that really knows and understands basketball.....Morey has shown an incompetence for making him that, and thinking you can build a team around him.

    Harden MIGHT be good enough to be a 3rd option on a championship team, IF he greatly improved his basketball IQ, stopped being such a ball hog, started playing some defense, and learned to score in a way other than free throws gained through flopping.

    That's an an honest assessment from me on what I see from him, and I felt this way a long time before he ever joined the Rockets. he's HUGELY overrated.
     
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    One thing I have really enjoyed about this season is knowing I can come to clutchfans for a good laugh on a nightly basis. Thanks for doing your part.
     
  14. redhotrox

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    Nobody cares about someone's assessment who thinks VSpan is the third best player in the world.
     
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    Well said.

    I think that at the end of the day we have to hold players accountable. Even our star players. Harden is indispensable, but if he screws up, he should be held accountable; after all no one is above the system.

    This has been the way with all sports, and it should be the way with basketball too.
     
  16. Han Solo

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    OMG. Lin is just another average NBA player. Harden is on his way to being a true NBA star. You stupid, blind LOF. 9 TO as only Harden ever has? Hahaha. **** man....****....As much as i love Lin, people like you ruin the joy of having him on my beloved Rockets. I really can't believe i'm saying this, but i hope the Rockets trade Jeremy so all of this ends.
     
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    Like Lin needs to work on his 3s harden needs to work on his midrange game. All superstars or stars have it. Durant, leBron, wade, Paul, Westbrook, Carmelo they all have a respectable mid range game.
     
  18. Mitchmantc

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    No, I'm saying our future is bring smart guy.

    Making the playoffs again is the first step towards a bright future, no matter what seed we are.

    I never said anything to discredit the contributions of Parsons, Lin, Asik & the rest of our team. I am extremely happy with the way this team has developed after only one season together.

    & so what if people complain about Lin in the game threads? I don't visit those, much less comment in them, so what was the point of mentioning it? Other than the fact that you're bitter.

    Now if you want to keep putting words in my mouth then i'm not going to waste anymore time responding you your posts.
     
  19. Honey Bear

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    Nah, playa's can get away with things others can't. MJ quit to play baseball, came back and won 3 rings. Kobe was set up on a rape charge, came back and won 2 rings without Shaq. They both missed a ton of clutch shots, had a lot of poor shooting games, but still got the job done because it was better they failed... than some perennial failure like Nick anderson.

    Ya feel me, boo?

    Don't come here with that elementary school everyone deserves a trophy and everyone deserves a chance to hit the game winner. It's not how it works in the nba..
     
  20. Han Solo

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    Yes, Harden does need to work on his mid-range and post for sure. The problem is that when refs bite their whistles, he settles for stupid 3's. He needs to break the defender down and create a good mid range shot for himself. That and build a post game. Were okay, hes still at 23 yo kid man....were alright..hes alright.

    One prob. i see with todays stars is they always over dribble at the top of the kay pretending they are going to take their defender off the dribble and just settle for a long range 3. Harden is so predictable at this as are so many of todays stars.
     

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