You're solving for the last problem. If you do that, they will just find a different way or a different target. It's not like there's a lack of huge crowds to target in the US. Besides which, the race route is 26 miles long - there's simply no way to secure that. All you're doing is making it more difficult for regular people without affecting the ability of bad guys.
Probably right ,...26 miles is just way to long, sigh, ...can't live in fear, if you or me blows up being in a public place tomarrow hardly any normal precautions can help prevent it.
Anybody else (particularly those in their late teens or twenties) desensitized at this point? My parents were pretty shaken, but my sister and myself (who grew up after 9/11) almost accept terrorism as a part of living here. It's a tragedy of course, but at this point I'm not surprised or truly horrified by small bombings anymore. A teacher of mine who's from Beirut says the same thing.
We haven't had many terrorist attacks, I think it's more the countless shootings that have desensitized most people.
I guess. But I mean, mass shootings (regardless whether they're at an elementary school, mall, wherever) still bother me and worry me. I almost expect terrorism to happen. I don't think twice of having a ton of security everywhere, of being searched, of not having trash cans at port authority. I would imagine this is what it's like to live in a country like Israel, where you just kind of shrug this stuff off.
So the bomb was inside a pressure cooker? Why a pressure cooker? Does this lead to a middle eastern bomber than?
Because it can be sealed, airtight, and is surrounded by thick metal. The same reason they use pipes. If I had to guess, I'd think it's domestic considering the date and location. A jihadi wouldn't have traveled across the map just to hit Boston. More like NY or Washington.
But shootings are also down from the '80s and '90s. If da_juice isn't as sensitive as his parents, I'd chalk it up to youth, and maybe not yet being a parent (if that's the case).
According to homeland security http://www.5nr.org/downloads/notice/PotentialTerrorist.pdf: " A technique commonly taught in Afghan terrorist training camps is the use/conversion of pressure cookers into IEDs. " More.... "DETAILS In September 2003, India’s security forces in Jammu foiled a major terrorist attack during the Navratra celebrations by seizing 40 kg of an explosive, RDX, which was put in two large pressure cookers. In March 2003, four Algerians, three of whom admitted training in Afghan terror camps, were convicted of plotting to bomb a French Christmas market using pressure cookers packed with explosives. In February 2002, two pressure cooker bombs were used in an attack on the old tower of Lukla Airport, shattering windows and blowing off the tin roof. Lukla Airport is located in the gateway to Solokhumbu at the foot of Mount Everest. February 2001, Maoist Rebels used two pressure cooker bombs in an attack on a convoy containing judicial officials. Four policemen on the escort team died instantly." But that doesn't mean it's a middle eastern thing. The instructions are available to anyone out there.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>.@<a href="https://twitter.com/davidsirota">davidsirota</a> wants the bomber to be white. @<a href="https://twitter.com/dylanbyers">dylanbyers</a> wants a nat'l conversation (about what, he doesn't know). I want the bomber caught.</p>— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) <a href="https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/324317226402455553">April 17, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> me too.
this is the full name of the group quoted above: How's that Republican Congress working out for you, America? Spoiler not mark zuckerberg
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People really need to be on the lookout of suspicious bags. One thing here in NY, I am always eyeing a bag that might be alone. Especially in crowded areas. The only defense against this kind of stuff is group vigilance. Sadly, it needs to become part of our collective national consciousness. Security can't monitor 26.2 miles of a race, but the public can. And make things like trash cans not easy to drop a bag into and hide.
Of course young people are desensitized, young people today can't focus for more then 30 seconds without having to text message, tweet or Facebook something. The USA is not anything like Beirut. How often do we hear stories of people strapping bombs to their chests and blowing up busses in the USA? The media wants us all to be in a state of fear. The USA is still a safe place. As bad as the bombing was I refuse to let the media brainwash me into believing that more security is needed and that we should all be afraid to congregate in large groups.
