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Metro to make 2 lanes on Post Oak near Galleria bus only

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by da1, Apr 11, 2013.

  1. TMac'n

    TMac'n Member

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    The light rail follows the traffic signals as much as automobiles.

    Why comment if you've never ridin? :confused:

    Your ignorance is showing
     
  2. Dubious

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    For mass transit to be valuable, it needs to connect high density residential areas to high density employment areas; or at least collect from a large area of residential by attaining high speeds in lower density. Galleria/Post Oak certainly has high density employment but what residents would it serve? Would someone drive to a transit center to park and board a bus to go 10 more blocks to their office?

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    The Power Point:
    http://www.ridemetro.org/AboutUs/Bo...town-POB-Transit-to-METRO-Committee082312.pdf
     
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  3. bigtexxx

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    Actually this point would be fixed by having park & ride buses make a stop at the transit centers
     
  4. H-townhero

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    I live in the galleria, I avoid post oak blvd/610 west loop like the plague. You
     
  5. Rocketman95

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    Yup. This would make getting to Galleria area from Katy a lot easier via mass transit.
     
  6. Johndoe804

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    I'd pay for it and it wouldn't do me any good. I'd still have to commute to get there. If they really wanted to accomplish anything, they'd be talking about a rail system for commuters going from outside of the loop to inside and vice versa.
     
  7. bigtexxx

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    the park and ride already accomplishes the same objective. why pay billions for the same thing
     
  8. Dubious

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    Cant wait for the memorial park improvements, definitely needs it. Hopefully money spent on some new single track trails for mtn biking!
     
  10. Bogey

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    What I saw on 290 is this morning is exactly why it does not accomplish the same thing. Busses stuck in traffic on the HOV lane. A commuter rail would be so much more efficient!!
     
  11. bigtexxx

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    if money were no object we'd have not only commuter rail, but a maglev, a subway and free magic carpet rides
     
  12. Bogey

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    I was pointing out it does not accomplish the same thing. Everyone know's improved infastructure costs money.
     
  13. da1

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    Money is only an object for rail. With highway projects politicians make it rain. Stop your hypocrisy it's just sad.
     
  14. bigtexxx

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    highways are needed to move cargo and emergency vehicles -- so they're a necessity. Do you want a medical team to travel by rail if you need urgent care and a trip to the hospital?

    Rail is nothing more than an expensive luxury in Houston
     
  15. Air Langhi

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    If we had more trains and people actually used them the roads would be emptier for emergency vehicles. Trains are more efficient at moving cargo.

    It doesn't matter most Houstonians just want to drive around. If you want a reasonable transport system the only choice is to move.
     
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    the trick is not expanding too far with the rail. If you go too far out, then it's not worth the cost because you won't be getting the regular ridership. The 1 line we have is wildly successful, but it's in a high density area. Expansion is desperately needed but only in places where you will get consistent ridership throughout the day, not just work commute hours. Make a good inner loop rail and that's good enough. The PnRs can take care of the rest.
     
  17. bigtexxx

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    We already have trains to move cargo. We're talking about commuter trains here. When you mix cargo and commuter trains, that's going to slow down the commuter trains...
     
  18. ling ling

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    If you build bus only lanes, would that be cheaper to build and maintain, while be at least as efficient?
     
  19. da1

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    10 lane highways??? :rolleyes:
     
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    Plans for bus-only lanes along Post Oak Boulevard in the Uptown area moved forward Thursday when a key committee recommended spending $62 million in federal funds.

    Members of the Houston-Galveston Area Council's transportation improvement program subcommittee approved the spending, a month after delaying a decision so staff could study the issue more, especially regarding plans for the buses to use lanes along Loop 610. In the end, after that additional analysis, planners found the project to build bus-only lanes along Post Oak and offer dedicated service between two park and ride lots is worthwhile, even without the freeway component.

    "This project would score exactly in the middle of the highest tier," said Alan Clark, manager of transportation and air quality programs at the Houston-Galveston council.

    Two more approvals from a technical committee and the region's transportation policy committee are needed for the project to receive the federal funds.

    Uptown's plan centers on offering bus rapid transit service along Post Oak, between a planned Westpark transit center south of U.S. 59 and west of Loop 610, and the Northwest Transit Center near 610 and Interstate 10. Buses would run the route in special center lanes along Post Oak, then using either elevated lanes along 610, or existing city streets north of where Post Oak meets Loop 610.

    Combined, the Westpark transit center and rapid transit project and Post Oak improvements are estimated to cost about $148 million. The work along Loop 610 is considered a separate $40 million project, which likely will follow the bus upgrades, set to open in 2017.

    About $30 million of the overall project will be spent buying right of way to widen Post Oak by 16 feet for the new lanes, said John Breeding, president of the Uptown Management District. He stressed drivers along Post Oak will still have the exact same number of lanes and access.

    Uptown, funded through a tax increment reinvestment zone, is paying just more than half of the costs.

    http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...own-transit-plan-back-on-the-road-4585111.php
     

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