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Your Best Player Taking a Wide Open Shot

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by v3.0, Apr 12, 2013.

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Good Shot?

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    10.3%
  1. mike_lu

    mike_lu Member

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    Except Harden wasn't called for the fouls, and with the way the game was being played (by the referees), it wasn't likely he would get those fouls.
     
  2. mike_lu

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    Why not do a poll on whether your best player should play D like he did tonight, EVERY NIGHT???
     
  3. amak316

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    I agree with you tonight because all the offense seemed to be only coming from Lin and Harden, but when Parsons is healthy I feel like we should take advantage of all our weapons in the clutch. It's a lot easier to stop the rockets when you know you only have to shut down Harden.
     
  4. v3.0

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    Well make that other thread then, no one is stopping you.
     
  5. mike_lu

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    That's because Harden makes it so ...
     
  6. pnr

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    Lol maybe because every single NBA team knows he's gonna go ISO in the last posessions of a game?
     
  7. trock

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    This might be overkill. I think you effectively killed the thread with your first post.
     
  8. mike_lu

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    Even McHale said so ...
     
  9. roxxy

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    McHale was the one who drew up the play to isolate Harden on his man & try & drive for a layup. Like it was weird I have seen McHale draw up some sweet plays out of timeouts. Tonights play definitely wasn't his best effort on that end.
     
  10. larsv8

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    Oh child, let me educate you.

    Lin isolation plays lead to points 33.8% of the time and turns it over 17% of the time. Its good for 158th in the league.

    Harden isolation plays lead to points 43.7% of the time and turns it over 7% of the time. Its good for 26th in the league.
     
  11. tellitlikeitis

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    But Harden iso-heroball bad!!!!
     
  12. mike_lu

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    McHale said it in an interview ... if it came down to a last shot, of course he'd give Harden the ball

    By the way, did we close the "Sometimes Harden would rather have 30 points and 9 turnovers" thread too early?

    Surely the LOFH cannot be too sensitive about a little criticism on Harden going 8.5 TOs/game over the last two?
     
  13. amak316

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    seems like your agreeing with me? If everyone thinks your gonna go iso at the end of the game its prob correct to NOT go iso. There only are a few players in the league that are so unguardable that iso-ing 100% of the time in end game scenarios is correct. IMO we don't have one of those players yet.
     
  14. pnr

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    It was tonight..
     
  15. mike_lu

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    Let me educate that guy who is on my ignore list but unfortunately somebody reposted.

    In fact, let him educate himself.

    Last 5 minutes, score +/- 5, Harden's shooting percentage vs Lin's? Both overall FG and 3ptFG? Go find it.

    I bet he wouldn't be so keen to educate the rest of us here on those numbers

    And iso-ball is just one option for the offense.
     
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  16. amak316

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    Seems like a great argument against Harden Iso at the end of the game. If he's only scoring 44% of the time on ISO normally then you'd have to imagine that number would nose dive when he isn't getting the benefit of the whistle and has to fight through more double teams without the element of surprise.

    Anyone arguing for Lin to ISO to end the game would have to be braindead.
     
  17. larsv8

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    I don't mean to be rude but I can't help but notice you are trying use double teams as a reason to not use an isolation strategy.

    I am not quite sure you know what isolation means.
     
  18. visible

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    is not harden or Lin taking the last shot. team should make ball move especially last few possisons. let ball movement create opportunities for shot like what we did few week ago when Harden sat out.
     
  19. amak316

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    My bad I was more talking about the last shot dynamics instead of pure iso. At the end of the game when its clear one guy is always taking the shot sometimes the D can bring help regardless of how spread out the offense is. Even if Harden gets it 1 on 1 100% of the time in those situations, he'll always be up against his opponents best defender, and always get way less whistles than normal possesions. I think his normal 44% scoring rate (as posted before by another poster) on ISO plays would go down substantially.
     
  20. aesthetics80

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    I don't think anyone should have a real issue with the last shot. It's the 3 possessions before that need to be addressed.
     

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