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Last night was a significant sign of growth from Jeremy Lin and Coach noticed...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Geronimo, Apr 10, 2013.

  1. raskol

    raskol Contributing Member

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    I know many vets on this site would hate this article (it is pretty pro-Lin, anti-McHale) but I appreciated it as it always feels great to see my thoughts and feelings written by somebody else. Granted the article used a lot of ridiculous hyperbole and painted Lin as a hero figure which is unnecessary and not true. But I did think that Lin should have gotten more of a role and more leeway (and yes I know his average minutes and usage rate, you know what I mean) and that is not the same as saying that ZOMG Lin is better than Harden, or ZOMG McHale has a conspiracy theory against Lin, a personal vendetta. Thanks for putting this article out there.
     
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  2. iLookOK

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    If it was a bad choice of words, why didn't you just go back and delete them?
     
  3. Morlock O

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    You can't unless you are a contributing member....
     
  4. Geronimo

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    Because you touch yourself at night.
     
  5. iLookOK

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    You can if you realized it while you were typing your original post. As he did.
     
  6. iLookOK

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    No, thats why the dinosaurs died.
     
  7. Morlock O

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    ummm ok...

    Troll much?
     
  8. poing

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    if you're looking to see your thoughts and feelings written by somebody else, there's a massive number of other fans who think just like you right here on this board who registered in the last year or so.

    in that author's THREE YEARS of sports writing on that site, he's written only 23 articles about the houston rockets, and 11 of them feature jeremy lin with almost all of them having lin as the absolute focal point. it also appears he was a huge morey hater. that man is clearly either also LOF or knows how to milk LOFs for hits on his small-time site.
     
  9. raskol

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    No, he's not a Rockets beat writer like Friedman, etc. Yes, he seems to like Lin's game a lot. Yes, it's a "small-time site." Yes, he's only written online for THREE YEARS. Yes, he veered off into hyperbole a few times too much. So, I guess he doesn't meet your standards.

    But, as I said, it feels good to have your concerns voiced by others, not that I need it to validate my thoughts. I'm here as I believe you are, to share thoughts and feelings on everything Rockets, as I can't bore my wife with it over and over again. So, if ESPN writes some Rockets homer-like article saying we could be like OKC in the next few years, I'd like it. What's wrong with that? And why the negative tone?

    So, basically saying that I wish Jeremy had played more in the 4th because I think it would've been better for the team and I felt it was not the right call is a sin? It's called an opinion. Can I have one? And in the course of sharing my opinion, have you seen me speak negatively of Harden, Asik, Parsons, Beverley, Morey, the Rockets, etc? No, you haven't because I'm a big fan of all of the above. I've never seen a group of people so against criticism against a coach. I've never called him names, I've never questioned his integrity or his heart or his competitiveness. I've actually watched McHale's games live and on TV in real time and respect the man. Why do you resort to being defensive over an opinion piece and basically call his career out as garbage. I don't understand people like you.

    Here's a very simple summary:

    Me: A poster who loves basketball, who's played basketball, who's coached basketball, who loves Rockets' basketball, who loves not only Lin, but Harden, Parsons, Asik, Beverley, D-Mo, Delfino, TJones who doesn't speak negative of anyone save criticism against the benching of Lin without ever resorting to name calling while being overwhelmingly positive of everyone on our roster.
    You: Upset at me for ..... liking Lin and liking an article (albeit full of hyperbole as Lin was clearly no savior of our team) written by someone who likes Lin.

    Come on now~ At least admit that your logic or viewpoint is compromised. Admit that you look at anyone pro-Lin and hate it and put them all into one category. Admit that you thought I wrote horrible things about the Rockets or our other players, or called McHale names. Cuz, you'd be wrong and I wish you'd stop.
     
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  10. Lihao

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    you can make your point but it's not cool with this type of name calling.
    also out of all the posters or so called LOH , really ? Clutch and Tinman ?
    the same Clutch who spent his personal time interviewing Lin after games and creating highlight play video?
    the same Tinman who went to Linsanity the movie premier and share all the action here?
    smh.....
     
  11. raskol

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    No, you misunderstand me. Or, actually, I may have misworded it. I do not believe Clutch, Tinman to be LOHs. That is not true. They've shown and repeated on many occasions that they like Lin. That was not what I meant at all. But, in the past when an article like this came up for discussion, they made it clear that didn't like articles like this. And I wanted to point out that the vets usually don't like articles that criticize McHale in the name of Lin, which is understandable. I just wanted to preemptively let them know if they were reading this that I know that they wouldn't approve and that I also take it with a grain of salt as it has some overt examples of Lin as savior, which he isn't. But that I appreciated someone saying that sitting Lin was a mistake. It doesn't mean that he is correct or that I am correct, or that the whole of the article was correct.

    Anyways, I'll go up and remove that. Didn't mean it like that. My bad.
     
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  12. Lihao

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    :) let's forget all these argument and looking forward for the play off
     
  13. raskol

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    Yup~ Let's do this!
     
  14. poing

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    thanks for the wall of text. no one said his career was garbage. you act as if having an article published with your opinion in it is any validation when there are dozens of equally qualified posters on this site who are far more credible than that particular author it comes to nba writing. why do you resort to being defensive over a terrible article being called out?

    here's a very simple summary:

    me: hates this terrible article and thinks this man who clearly hated morey and doesn't have an interest in rockets prior to the lin signing shouldn't be writing rockets articles for a houston news site.

    you: upset at me for hating this writer and hating a bad article written by this writer most likely just to try to get hits.

    come on now. at least admit your viewpoint is compromised. admit that you look at anyone berating something that might be pro-lin and hate it because you assume I hate lin or his fans. admit that you thought I wrote horrible things about lin or you, or called you names. cuz you'd be wrong and I wish you'd stop.
     
  15. raskol

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    LOL. Point taken, but you rained on my parade, remember, not the other way around. And you tossed out LOF badges like it was the thing to do, to me, the writer.. Anyways, point taken. It was not the best article. But the main theme of the article I agreed with was an important one to be made: that Lin was not trusted like a starting pg, and perhaps unfairly. It was good to hear that, though him trumping up Lin as a hero who guided the Rockets into the playoffs was ridiculous. And btw, I shouldn't have been so defensive toward you. I just hate the LOF thing.
     
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  16. poing

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    LOF gets thrown about around here a lot, but I don't even think the label should be offensive. I may not agree with some of the things that some of the lin fans say, but I also don't agree with some of the things that rockets fans say in general either. fans gotta start somewhere. the way I see it, lin fans will become rocket fans over time, and the ones that don't are fine because I won't see them in ten years.

    anyways, we got sorta off topic.


    I think mchale's distrust of lin is overstated. lin has been ballin' in the second half of the season, and it feels more like things are adjusting because lin's playing well and not the other way around. if mchale keeps his job into the next few seasons, I think the whole "mchale hates lin" thing will blow over completely.

    it's not a matter of mchale's trust. it's a matter of lin becoming consistently "linsane" full time over the next few years. we're off to a good start in the second half of this season.
     
  17. Panda23

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    Thats how I started. Like I was 15 and honestly didnt know anything about basketball until one of my mates said 'oi check out this giant asian dude (Yao)', started watching not only houston but, lebron, kobe, all the other big names and genuinely came to appreciate the nuances of basketball in general. It's no different to as another poster said, Trobs sister wanting him to do well as far as the Lin fans go, but just try to be objective when evaluating ones peformance. The team is performing very well, and Mchale made some very good decisions down the stretch imo.
     
  18. tomato123

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    What I am seeing is McHale prepared to bench Lin for 4th quarter.

    1) He played Lin for full 3rd quarter without ball in his hand and Harden was doing most PG role. (Regular rotation should took out lin at last 3 mintues of 3rd quarter) By doing this, nobody will compliant about Lin's minutes.

    2) Bev was playing well at the beginning of the 4th and if he's keep playing well, Lin will not be in the court.
     
  19. AustinPowers

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    Sounds crazy, but i think some folks are simply born with it.

    Jeremy 'Clutch Gene' Lin
     
  20. norcalhussla

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    glad we got 2 guys that love crunch time and have clutch genes. thats when you should play the hardest.
     

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