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Why Christianity is Turning People Off

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Harrisment, Apr 4, 2013.

  1. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Generalize much?
     
  2. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Are you ashamed of what religion or path you follow? If not, why are you so hesitant to tell us (I am Catholic).
     
  3. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Why does it matter what he is or what you are? Just discuss the topic. He could be a hypocritical serial murderer who worships satan, doesn't change whether or not his argument is valid or can be invalidated.

    FWIW he is clearly not Muslim because Muslims believe in the virgin birth and also believe heaven's rivers flow with wine (which he calls poison).
     
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  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    It would be easier to discuss a topic if you generally know where someone is coming from and where their point of view is coming from - don't you agree?
     
  5. KingCheetah

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    Church of god - Pentecostal.
     
  6. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    I guess Children of God -- cult.
     
  7. Nextup

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    Lol Bob I'm not part of any organized religion or cult. I am a man with my own views.
     
  8. Nextup

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    Nobody wants to comment on this? You prefer to guess that I'm a cult member lol.
     
  9. bobmarley

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    So God will forgive us if we don't believe in him, but if we are not good people, as a last result, he can send us to hell?

    My guess is Nextupianism.
     
  10. Nextup

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    I guess the other alternative is better everybody but the Christians go straight to hell? Your allowed to make fun of my beliefs. For humanity's sake I sure hope I'm right and your wrong. As a person who believes in god it would be very disturbing if the majority of us are on a path straight to hell.
     
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    I agree with your general sentiment.
     
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    Bob hypothetical question. A non christian dedicates his entire life to helping others but never accepts Jesus as his lord and savior, will that person go to hell? The god you portray sounds like the devil to me. God places you in a non christian home in a non christian country and then sends you straight to hell. Bob you do realize that for many people Christianity is not even an option? I guess god put them on earth with the idea of just sending them to hell. Wow those people sure had the deck stacked against them. Are you really so sure that you even want to believe in a god who would do that?
     
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    That question always bothered me when I considered myself a catholic. It didn't make sense to me that indigenous Indians are destined to damnation.
     
  14. DFWRocket

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    My Pastor preached a sermon on this - He postulated (using scripture as basis) that God shows himself to man in many ways. That is why you have tribes that worship God or gods and yet have never been influenced or told to believe in a god. They will be going to heaven because they have never had the chance to hear about Jesus.

    Not that it really matters...but my guess is that you are Jewish?
     
  15. bobmarley

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    What you are describing is Calvinism.

    But this is what I believe about it.

    Acts 17:26, 27
    26 And he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place, 27 that they should seek God, and perhaps feel their way toward him and find him. Yet he is actually not far from each one of us

    Romans 1:19-23
    19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.
     
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    Your pastor is undermining the most basic belief of Christianity
     
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    That's because the power hungry set up this doctrine and put it on autopilot, allowing others to spread it around the world and replace deeper spiritual teachings around the world and now people consider you to be whacko if you don't buy an organized religion, at least those who are religious.

    The elite know many spiritual truths but keep it hidden from the common man for control and have done such a good job that now if they started revealing them bluntly, people would still believe in their current ways because it's all they've known.

    Indoctrination.
     
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    No I have no organized religion just my own beliefs. What about people in strict Muslim countries who heard about Jesus but let's be real their is no real option of turning to Jesus would they be saved. Doesn't it seem like god is saying that Christians are the chosen people? If your born into a christian family life is easy but if not your almost a lock to go to hell.
     
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    In all seriousness you seem like a good person even though I know nothing about you. Is it possible that god is more forgiving and loving then we realize? Is it possible that god has skin so thick that we can't even comprehend how thick it is? If your a parent let me ask you this question what is worst somebody hurting you or hurting your children? Is it possible that god like any other parents greatest concern is not whether we worship him or not but that we take care of each other?
     
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    I do believe God is way more forgiving and loving then we will EVER realize.

    It's not about thick skin with God. It's about his holiness.

    Do you believe that God is holy and completely sinless with no guile whatsoever?

    As a parent it would be worse if someone were to hurt my child.

    Taking care of others is an act of worshiping God, because He created them in his own image.
     

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