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Gun for home defense -- need advice

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by bigtexxx, Apr 6, 2013.

  1. Butterfingers

    Butterfingers Member

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    Very simple answer. Buy all 3, especially since money isn't an issue for oil people.

    I have a .40 CZ 75B pistol in my car, you can get the same caliber or 9 mm Glock also.

    Get the shotgun for home protection. I recommend this Remington 870 that I have below. It has the shortest legal barrel you can have on a gun, can hold 7 rounds, is 12 guage, and is dirt cheap at like $350.

    http://www.remington.com/en/product...-870/model-870-express-synthetic-7-round.aspx

    Then if you still want to buy a revolver or AR-15. Don't get a Bushmaster, you are a man of wealth who enjoys the best things in life. Get the Colt AR-15, it is a beautiful rifle that is a joy to shoot and hunt with. Put an ACOG on it and the gun is straight out of call of duty.

    Get a revolver for your wife since it is reliable, won't jam, and is easy to use. I would recommend a Smith and Wesson 686 in whatever caliber you want. Keep in mind less recoil is better for women so they can aim better.

    LittleTex in training out.
     
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  2. Hak34

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    Awww poor Tessy. Still no answer to my question though. If the idea is to be as prepared as possible for extremely remote situations, do you guys take the same stance in everything you do? Seems fair eniugh a question.

    Let us all know how it works out the next time your home invaded I needed to use your ar-15. Lol.
     
  3. BE4RD

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    It's kind of disturbing that, in the chance of a home invasion, your desired and expected outcome is murdering/shooting someone.

    The only thing I desire and expect is for my property to be secured. I am not seeking out a violent end to the situation. If the violence finds me, so be it, but it is not my wish.

    Also, you're asking for trouble shooting people in the back like that. A lengthy jail sentence is really not worth a round of live action target practice. Secure your property and then inform the authorities, it's called "home defense", not "home offense".
     
  4. JD88

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    I think its disturbing you will allow someone to leave, so he can break into the next house a few days later.

    I was an MP, I know how to play the justice system.
     
  5. Butterfingers

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    He is right on his last point. You are not allowed to shoot someone in the back because it indicates they were fleeing and you will go to jail. Only shoot if they are facing you.
     
  6. Baqui99

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    AR-15? You live in Compton or something?
     
  7. BE4RD

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    We don't allow citizens to kill people on the basis of preventing would-be crimes. I hope you never have to manipulate the justice system, either. I'm not sure why you bring that up, other than to either brag or justify murdering someone. Either way, jeez...
     
  8. JD88

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    If I gun down someone three houses down with a glock 26, that's a pretty incredible shot.

    Obviously if they are that far away, I wouldn't have a chance in hell of hitting them. If they make it to the sidewalk in front of my house, they are still fair game.

    So why did you fire after he left your house?

    "Well you see officer, after I shot and killed the first intruder, the others began yelling about how I was going to pay for killing him. At that point, I wasn't entirely sure how many of them there were, or if others might be outside as look-outs. Knowing that there could be more, and that they sounded as if they had retaliation in mind, I felt that my life was still being threatened. It was dark, and as per the Castle laws I still felt like the threat was there, I then proceeded to take a well aimed shot from my front door. At that point, the yelling stopped, and I felt secure in thinking that the threat had been eliminated and it was a good time to call authorites."

    Try and book me for murder. Good luck.
     
  9. JD88

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    Because its how you word anything.

    I guess its cool to let a would be burgular walk out the door, so he can go rob someone else.

    To each his own.
     
  10. BE4RD

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    Well, since you're the one so convinced that you need to lie and manipulate things to get out of being charged with murder, I'd say that's a pretty strong indicator that you consider it to be murder.

    It's a lot cooler than killing somebody because you feel like they deserve to die. If you want to go around executing criminals 1) you're in the wrong country and 2) you're in the wrong line of work.

    Not really. We have laws. They apply to everybody. They're not a la carte.
     
  11. JD88

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    Who said it was lying? Until I know for sure that I am no longer in danger, I am justified in pulling the trigger. It's not murder, not to me, not to the law, only to you.

    Sec. 9.32. DEADLY FORCE IN DEFENSE OF PERSON. (a) A person
    is justified in using deadly force against another:
    (A) unlawfully and with force entered, or was
    attempting to enter unlawfully and with force, the actor's occupied
    habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment;


    The law says its not murder, so I guess in your fairy tale world you can go on believing that everybody is kind and friendly, but I don't wish to see them attempt to break in to my neighbor's house, or my father's house, or your house.

    So now Im a vigilante because I am shooting justifiably shooting someone within the law? Interesting.

    Right. We do. And I wouldn't be breaking any of them by shooting someone running from my house. At night time, it's a bonus. State law says if I feel threatened at night by someone being on my property, I have a right to shoot.

    You're the kind of person not to stop an armed robbery at a gas station, only to let the perp get away and slam into a mini-van in the police chase that follows.

    Like I said, to each his own. It's my right to shoot, it's your right not to shoot. We're just different people, no harm in that.
     
  12. BE4RD

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    We can't flesh out the full details of a home invasion and recreate a court of law on a BBS, so this discussion is pretty pointless.

    But if it is your desired and expected outcome to shoot someone, "different" or not, that is pretty f***ed up.
     
  13. BE4RD

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    And, if I can, I'm stopping an armed robbery.

    Presuming things about my character is really dumb (about as dumb as presuming criminal acts), and you should stop.
     
  14. JD88

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    You're right, this is a pointless discussion. At least, our back and forth is pretty pointless.

    You're trying to make it seem like I sit on my back porch and pray that someone cuts through my yard on the way to the candy store.

    Any more of this and the thread will get moved to the D&D.

    To answer the original OP, glock 26, critical defense rounds.
     
  15. BE4RD

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    Absolutely not. You said it yourself.

    There is no other way to interpret this statement than your expected and desired outcome being violence/shooting someone. I need add no words to this to make it sound as messed up as it appears.
     
  16. JD88

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    Wanting someone to break into my house so I can shoot them

    is not the same as

    Wanting to shoot someone who breaks into my house

    But good try.
     
  17. BE4RD

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    Hard for it to be a "good try" if I never said (or even inferred) you wanted someone to break in.

    Like I said, I need not add words to it or color it.

    It stands pretty plainly on its own.
     
  18. iconoclastic

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    Just get a bazooka, or a grenade launcher.
     
  19. Anxiety Trooper

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    Your sick bro. Get help. Turn to god. Do something. Anything.
     
  20. bigtexxx

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    the word you were looking for is "you're".....not "your"

    just trying to help you out, brah
     

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