LA Times: Immature Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan Weary of Chris Paul

sounds like a lakers fan

 

How about if Paul borrows Cliff's Notes! Problem solved
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I don't understand the criticism of Paul he almost singlehandly beat the lakers when he was in NO two years ago

 

If they lose in 4 or 5 games in the first round he would really have something to think about.

 

Throw in Jordan and Crawford and we haves deal

 

I promise you he's going nowhere. But if the Clippers lose in the first round Vinny will be gone with an absolute certainty.

 

From one of his articles:

Now I know that makes me a homer in the eyes of folks sentenced to live elsewhere. But I'm just going to come out and write it: I'm openly rooting for a first-round playoff series between the Lakers and Clippers.

As I write this, Memphis is playing the Clippers.

And I'm reminded how much Memphis smells, and how pathetic their fans come across.

Oakland and Houston, meanwhile, are dumps.

And have you ever contemplated wasting what time you might have left in life in Oklahoma City? Or wanted to watch the garbage float by while eating beside the River Walk in San Antonio?

Now you know why I was pulling so hard for the Lakers not to gag in Atlanta, and I say that while rooting for them.

Who wants our guys going to some outpost for the playoffs where everyone wears the same T-shirt like they are still attending a high school pep rally?


Guy's a joke

 

Your promise is just based on the odds being very high which everyone thinks they are. I still think there is a chance Paul realizes he will never win there and decides to leave.

 

It would be one thing if the Clippers lacked talent, like the old Hornets team did. But they don't. At the very minimum they have one of the bright young stars in the NBA in Griffin.

Paul leaving is even less likely than Howard leaving (which is extremely unlikely even given the debacle of a Laker season). Howard is essentially going to be stuck on the west coast Magic in the next few years as the old guard dies out. Paul, however, is on a team that has youth and potential, and is winning already. That they are close to contention in two years is a positive, not a negative. People are just being hyoerbolic because the Clippers aren't playing as well as they were earlier in the season, but if they had taken a different path to get to the same record (eg like the Nuggets, Grizzlies, or Pacers), this wouldn't even be a discussion.

Remember, all else being equal, Paul makes more money in LA due to salary and endorsements.

 

Blake Griffin is a bright young star that hasn't gotten much brighter this year. He is more flash than substance. Jordan is just eating up cap space for the next 2 years. Chauncey and Butler aren't getting any younger or better. Bledsoe will likely be gone by next.

The only way I see the Clippers being a good place to stay is if Griffin turns into a true superstar and I don't see that happening. If Paul wants to win first he should get out of there. And none of this has anything to do with them playing bad as of late because I have always felt this way about the Clippers.

 

I am so sick of these "more flash than substance" comments about Griffin from people who barely watch him play. The guy is one of the most versatile PFs in the game. He's an excellent ballhandler and passer and has developed more of a faceup game this year, as well as improved his FT% so that he's not a liability like he was last year. He is not fitting perfectly into the system but my god, it's his third year in the league. The guy has a great future.

 

I agree. Blake Griffin has actually turned into a very decent jump shooter this year. 56% of Griffin's shots are jumpers and he hits .464 eFG% of them. Let's compare that with everyone's favorite jump shooting big man Chris Bosh: 67%/.478.

 

Blake is still a good player with a good future but I just don't see superstar from him unless he develops a good post up game or starts playing good defense. He has improved but he isn't where you would think he would/should be as a player two years after his amazing rookie season. I'd place him near the bottom of the top 10 players under 25.

 

Well, let's see your list then. The only star bigs under 25 are Love and Cousins (mayyybe Ibaka) and I'd take him over both those guys. Of the others, Durant is obviously better and most would take Westbrook and Rose too although it's pretty hard to compare positions. Then you have guys like Lillard, Curry, Harden, and Irving who arguably have more talent but think of this-- how many good PGs are there in the league vs bigmen? Not many, and for that reason I would never make that trade unless the talent disparity were lopsided, which it isn't.

 

1. Durant
2. Westbrook
3. Rose
4. Harden
5. Irving
6 Love
7. Curry
8. George/Blake/Lillard/Cousins/Wall/Monroe/Davis

 

I can't argue with the top 3, although I do wonder if Rose will ever be the same. I disagree with everything else on your list, and I find it laughable that you put Love in there when your criticism of Blake is that he doesn't have a post game. His post-game is twice as good as Love's, who basically does two things: shoot 3s and rebound.

Harden is good, but they are completely different players in completely different roles. Blake has done better as both a 1st and 2nd option as Harden did (again, really hard to compare). But the main difference is that Harden is way more easy to replace than Blake. Look how few bigmen are on your list.

I did forget about Greg Monroe. He's very underrated.

 

Love is an elite scorer even without a great post up game because he has great range. Blake will never have that range. Love is also an elite rebounder.

Harden is doing more as a number one option than Blake did.

 

Love is not an elite scorer. He's inefficient and on a crappy team. You don't want your bigman taking perimeter shots-- it defeats the whole point of being a bigman, which is to operate inside to get the opposition in foul trouble and open the offense up for your teammates. I dislike the fact that under the VDN system Blake is taking more jumpers-- I understand the rationale, which is to make him a triple threat, but it's passing up better scoring opportunities.

I really find it hard to compare Harden and Blake because they are in completely different situations. Blake was a 20/12 guy as the first option on a bad team, and those guys are far harder to come by than scoring guards like Harden. I mean, the Bucks traded a similar guy in Monta Ellis for Bogut, who is 50% of the player Blake is at this point in his career.

 

Lots of guys are on crappy teams but they don't average 26 a game.

Name me all these other guards that have a ts% over 60 and can get to the love at hardens rate. Comparing him to Ellis is a joke

 

Well, back when Ellis was a first option on a high scoring team, he had a season where he put up 26/5/4 too.

I just don't put a heck of a lot of value into high scoring guards since there are a ton of them in the league. When you control the ball and take a lot of shots (and Harden takes a ton more shots than is shown in the box score since he gets to the line so much-- those count as possessions too), you pretty much dictate your own scoring.