Texas A&M Student Senate Passes Discriminatory LGBT Bill

Your article was crap. The stats you produce aren't really indicative of anything. That isn't that many sexual partners, and don't mean a thing unless they are compared to hetero's that also don't get married. It makes sense that people who aren't allowed to marry date a wider array of people. That's true of single men and women who don't marry.

The drug use thing is also meaningless. Most out homosexuals will be younger and at an age that is more prone to drug use. I would need to see age and socio-economic comparisons for that stat to mean anything.

Also add the stigma and pressures that go with belonging to a group that isn't allowed the same rights as other members of society, are beaten and killed because of who they are, and have idiots trying to find a way to rig the stats to speak out against them as a group. Those additional pressures could indeed lead to an increase in alcohol and drug use.

The human race isn't in danger of dying out. We are in danger of overpopulating. If the entire race was homosexual it might be a concern about not being able to produce offspring. However that isn't the case, nor is it even remotely close to being a legitimate concern. What bunk.

What garbage stats that article uses. It's so full of crap it made me sick just reading it. It really isn't even worth discussion it's so ridiculous, but you keep seem to hanging onto it for some reason, so I thought I'd give it more attention than it deserved in hopes that you'd move on.

 

Nope, I agree that said analogy is dumb as hell.

And I strongly to the left.

 

This statement is far too simplistic. If we are just talking about the movements as a whole it is a horrible analogy. If we are talking about the arguments made against equal rights for homosexuals who aren't allowed to marry the people they love like other citizens then that part of it makes sense.

If we are talking about the particular rights being denied such as voting, use of public businesses etc. then it doesn't make sense and is a horrible analogy.

If we are talking about both groups being despised by some, beaten, killed, and attacked because of who they are, then it makes sense to a lesser but still present degree.

It just depends on how the analogy is used. If it's used to show how shallow, and bigoted the arguments against equal rights for homosexuals are, then it makes absolute perfect sense.

 

It's sad how anti gay friendly many of my fellow ags are. I was continuously disgusted by the rhetoric used by many of my friends when talking about minorities and gays. Most people there are not like that individually, but when acting as a group it's different.

 

Red herrings aside, there has been little debate or discussion on the topic at hand which is funding for a LGBT Student resource center.

 

Please feel free to tell black people that were affected by segregation and slavery how much homosexuality is just like their cause.

 

Did you see the differences I mentioned? I listed some of those things specifically. Please reread the comment.

You do understand that because there are differences doesn't mean there can't also be similarities right?

 

He wouldn't do that, nor would any other logical person. That's just a flat out bad analogy, that distracts from purpose it's trying to make.

 

Your rebuttal is your stats are crap because this is my opinion on the matter.

Argument from incredulity. Ad hominem. Really, I could go on and on about your fallacious reasoning but I thought I'd give it more attention than it deserved in hopes that you'd move on.

 

I agree.

 

Using religion to justify and rationalize your own hate and insecurities is par far the course for humanity as history shows. Being empathetic usually requires a higher level of intelligence/education so it's going to take a couple more indocrinated generations to die off and the standard of education to rise before we get to the end of "JESUS SAID GAYS ARE TERRORISTS FUNDED BY AL QIDDA COMMIE BASTARDS! THANKS OBAMA!! " rhetoric.

 

Do you normally think before you post?

I have never hated gay people even though I disagree with the morality of homosexual acts. If you would like a bad analogy, I don't hate Gary Kubiak, even though I disagree with his play calling.

 

No, you've misunderstood. My argument is that your stats are crap because they aren't really relevant and I've spelled out the reason why. The fallacious reasoning was in the part of using statistics without enough parameters to really make a valid comparison.

If you honestly believe that those statistics make any sort of valid comparison, then you could some review of basic scientific research and study. I don't know what else to say. I've pointed out why the stats don't work, and it has nothing to do with my opinion.

 

Agreed. Nobody in their right mind would claim that the struggles faced by the Lesbian and Gay community are the same as the struggles of overcoming slavery, and the level of segregation faced by African Americans.

That was exactly the part that I said was ridiculous. But arguments used to deny rights to homosexuals and arguments used to deny rights to African Americans are very comparable. The fact that homosexuals are attacked, beaten, killed, and denied some rights that other members of society are allowed based on who they are is also valid.

 

sure

keep crusading brother!

 

Just because you make a statement about why you believe the stats are not correct does not make that so. You must now prove your comments.

 

I think it is a terrible tragedy that anyone has lost their life because of the stupidity and immorality of some.

It does not make homosexual acts any more moral or natural.

 

I know its the cool thing to make slanderous arguments and never answer for them, but no worries bro, no one takes you seriously.

 

What? Hahahaha.

I guess we're done. I can tell you that Because according to best estimates 56,597,034 die each year on the planet we are going to go extinct soon.

The stat I named is accurate.

You can come in and tell me that stat isn't really applicable to the statement I made unless I also provide the stat of how many people are born each day as well, and also add in stats on life expectancy etc.

You would actually be correct. But I can come back and say that unless you prove your comments then it's just your belief.

Please revisit and rethink your logic. Otherwise our conversation is at an end, because you don't understand the basics of what it takes to make statistics applicable when it comes to making valid comparisons.

You're trying to use only death statistics to back up a claim that humans will soon go extinct and refusing to realize that those statistics aren't accurate without also including birth statistics. When I mention that you ask me to prove that we need to use birth statistics as well. It's baffling.

 

I think it's hilarious I never mentioned you or quoted any of your posts and you continue defending yourself - it shows me all I need to know.

And what from my original post that you projected onto yourself do you want me to answer?