Numbers-wise, Lin and Parsons have comparable drops in efficiency on 0 days rest (per NBA/stats). ~8-10% drop on FG% and 3P%. Surprisingly, these two are the only ones to show such a drastic decrease in efficiency. No other player who has played significant minutes so far shows a similar trend, though Omer grabs ~2 rebounds less on back-to-backs.
So you agree he frequently looks noticeably fatigued, and that he wasn't conditioned well enough for starter minutes last season. How much training to improve his stamina could he have done in the summer if he was recovering from knee surgery?
And why would that be more of a factor in back-to-backs than fatigue? I can see fatigue affecting younger, inexperienced players more. But the underlying issue would still be fatigue.
He always looks noticeably fatigued going back to his college days & in the D-League even when he was in good shape. And my whole stance on his recovery from knee surgery thing is that it is silly. If Lin could improve his passing, his transition game & his PNR game & also bulk up this off season then I think he was clearly able to find time to work on his conditioning. His knee didn't stop him from getting better this off season so why would it stop him from working on his stamina?
Durvassa I have a question for you totally unrelated to our current discussion. If the Rockets were to get DH12 & keep Asik. What are your thoughts on starting both of them on the offensive & defensive end. Lin harden parsons Asik DH12. This is all hypothetical of course
Why would a player look noticeably fatigued if they were not fatigued? I don't know the extent to which he could have trained, or what specifically he worked on. And it doesn't make sense to assume that just because he has improved in some areas (which could be due to a combination of skill training and experience/maturation), that he should and would have overcome all his endurance issues in a single summer. It could be a greater challenge for some guys than others, just because of the way they are built and their style of play.
I think it would be a bad idea. Putting two guys in the front-court who can't shoot or handle the ball and are limited in their ability to cover the perimeter defensively, to me, is not a sound basketball strategy. We did start Yao and Chuck Hayes together one season to some success, but Chuck was a more mobile defender than a lot of people gave him credit for in those days. I prefer a PF who is "rangy" on both ends of the floor. I would hope Motiejunas or Robinson improves enough to claim that spot.
I don't think he needs to be on a minutes limit is my point. And I feel that if he had poor conditioning we would have heard about it by now from the coaching staff, considering how frank McHale is with the media. He has been open about Asik's stamina issues after all. Wouldn't it be common sense though to work on your conditioning first & foremost? After Lin himself said that he lost fat & added muscle so that he could reduce the stress on his knees. Like if a player had season ending knee surgery because they were formerly a 15th man thrust into a starter's position that they were physically unprepared for. Wouldn't the smart thing to do first is to make sure that your stamina is up to snuff as a starter. And there is no way that the coaches didn't tell him over the summer (pre harden) that you will be playing a lot of minutes. Like I am not sure why we are arguing over common sense here. Lin isn't an idiot & if I accept your premise that he does have poor stamina then I would think to myself why the hell didn't he work on that first before all the other aspects of his game that he somehow managed to improve in the off season despite his knee surgery. Maybe there is some validity to your statement that some guys struggle with there endurance more than others but I would attribute that more to big men (like Omer) as opposed to PG's. Just a few thoughts. Honestly it would properly just be smarter to ask Jason Friedman about it because he would no first hand. When next they do rocketscast I will make that a question.
I don't know how much he trained, or what he trained for. Whatever improvements are in his game could be mostly due to him just being a more experienced player. Recovering from knee surgery would limit the amount of things he could do in the off-season. For example, full 5-on-5 practice. Its hard to simulate actual NBA games and how that affects your body. You try to train for it in the off-season, but its not the same if you can't go full speed in your training.
Hey jerk. Are you sure about that? I thought his wrist was hurt for one or two games. Didn't they even send him down back to the D League after we traded for T Rob? Even before the trade a lot of us here were wondering why the guy couldn't even get garbage time. He's been playing great in the D League all year.
Hey friend. We are sure about that. We know that his wrist was hurt for at least 2 weeks and he was wearing a cast on his shooting hand. He got sent down to the D-league to get back in shape. He probably wasn't getting time because we had Ppat and MM. D-league stats don't translate to the NBA, the list is long. Hope that clears it all up.
A much friendlier response. I can at least respect that. With that said I think we'll agree to disagree. I remember reading in a thread he hurt his wrist but that only explains a few games. And while it's true playing well in the D League doesn't always translate, T Jones barely even got in garbage time. We traded for T Rob 6 weeks ago and so even if T Jones was hurt for 2 weeks that still doesn't explain why he was getting no time at all.
