your mom is carl. just watched it again and it seems to me like he was going to do something. he was walking towards carl and starting to turn the barrel towards him. they could have given him a 2nd warning and told him "dont move", but other than that i dont think carl was out of line.
Seems every season the finale is a bit dissapointing. The battle was pretty anticlimactic. Carl trending toward being a dick. Andrea taking forever to free herself then gets bit by a nerd zombie when she's had to deal with much worse. Governor on the run when so many people had just cause to end him; so unrewarding. And yeah not taking over Woodbury seems a bit strange. I would have preferred the battle to spill over to next season, rather than end it like this. And it makes me wonder if we'll get a whole second season of the prison. If so it's gonna be hard to stay interested.
Andrea's stream of consciousness. Gotta hurry. Gotta hurry. Wait. Is he turning? Stop trying to free yourself. Oh, he's alive. Stop hurrying. You have plenty of time. What? He's telling me I should hurry. Should I hurry? Nah. Take your time. Take your time. Wait. Stop. Is he turning? Don't do anything until you can tell if he's turning. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Is he turning? Wait. Wait. Wait. OMG he's turning. Hurry. Hurry. Hurry. Hurry. Hurry. Why **** wasn't I hurrying sooner?
And I'd like to see that backfire in his face. I was just starting to like him and then he reverts back to the stupid kid that thinks he's a badass and knows everything. Governor and Shane and even Merle took that kill or be killed attitude and look where it got them. On the flip side Rick has made some poor decisions in hindsight. So there really is no easy solution.
Definitely a let down finale. What was the prison team's strategy? Have a shootout behind wooden pallets? Martinez had a grenade launcher that blew up a couple of guard towers. Made no sense for them to run away with the bigger guns. The Andrea scenes were awkward. She stops trying to pick up the pliers to have a conversation with a dying Milton. Good thing she got killed for being such an idiot.
If Hershel and Carl told him to drop his weapon, why was he trying to hand it to him? The way that guy was handing his gun over in my opinion, he could have swung it at Carl so why take the chance.
Andrea's scenes in the finale were terrible. I was saying "just die" out loud. Darryl and Merle's conclusion last week made this one seem like amateur filler material.
they have that whole dumb storyline with the pliers that takes the entire episode, and she just ends up bitten anyway, wtf kind of writing is that?
And what happened with the whole Tyrese "I'm going to check on something" thing? I seriously thought he was gonna stumble upon Andrea and free her.
Oh wow I completely forgot about that....that led to absolutely nothing right? It's like they forgot to add the connecting scene in the episode. I'm not one to be a stickler for pointing out problems in a show as long as it is entertaining, but this was just too blatantly bad.
seriously. I just wanted Andrea to die already, her character was even more annoying than olive oil. It was pointless to just drag it out like that and just have the "I'll pour my heart out" conversation when the guy is about to turn and kill her. I actually liked the Carl clip. He killed the guy in cold blood, but the way the guy was turning his gun he seemed like he thought he had the edge because it was against a cripple and a little kid. Tbh, he made the smart decision in that case, it was murder but it isn't worth taking that 10% risk anyways.
crap, you're probably right. That was always Shane's strategy, remember when they were debating on killing the kid on Hershel's farm and Shane wanted to kill him outright? I still think Carl probably made the right choice. When you're a little kid, have a cripple 60 year old man, and a little girl taking care of your baby sister you really aren't in a position to take chances. Carl isn't evil , but he is probably the only one that has what it takes to survive in this world.
No, Kirkman fired him and he was fired after they had finished filming the season. This ending may have had something to do with him getting fired. The show should be in better hands next season.
Then whoever shot that scene did a piss-poor job of making that clear. The kid kept walking toward Carl and didn't throw down his weapon immediately. Before Carl pulled the trigger, I was actually thinking the other kid was going to get the jump on Carl (the way Merle go the jump on Maggie and Glenn) and that old guy was going to have to shoot him. Given the "no-prisoners" attitude they're attributing to Carl, it would have been more effective to have him just shoot one of the Woodbury stragglers in the back as he ran through the woods. The end message would have been the same, and it would have avoided the ambiguity of the actual scene. I've been pretty forgiving of the flaws of this series, but the writing this season (and particularly for the finale) was a mess. The best episode was Clear, which had nothing to do with the main storyline and seemed to have been written solely to give Michone some much needed character development (which could have been done over the course of the season withing the frame of the main storyline). Too many scenes and dialogues were wasted on characters that were nothing more than zombie or sniper fodder - it's good to humanize the victims but there's only so much screen time available. I'm wondering if anyone actually plotted the season out before the actual screenplays were written, because a thematic unity is what seemed to be lacking more than anything else. It was almost as if the writers wrote a bunch of scenes and then pasted them together to make each episode. That's not good writing and as much as I've wanted to like this show, I'm finding it more and more disappointing.
So the show just killed off the character that happens to be my favorite in the comic, after totally trashing her personality and all around awesomeness. I guess they were past the point of redemption with Andrea but still, with her Spoiler still being alive and in a relationship with Rick in the comic , I thought they might make an attempt. Looks like the show may be making a more defined and permanent break with its source material now. Gotta admit, I agree with everyone who said this finale was anticlimactic and lackluster. Not sure what happened, but it definitely seems the changing of the showrunner led to a re-imagining of the way this arc will end, and thus a postponement of that until next season. Resulted in a pretty underwhelming finale, but I have hope that next season will be a marked improvement, primarily because this season's best 2 episodes were the 2 written by the new showrunner. Given time, I feel he may take this series to a much better place.
What the hell did Andrea say to Rick , right before he left the room ? She mutters something and Rick answers " you did " Listened to it 5 times and couldn't tell . Have to agree the episode was pretty poorly written . Especially the part where guys with machine guns stand around and watch some psycho kill off all their friends
