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Typical Racist White Conservative

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by CometsWin, Mar 29, 2013.

  1. Nook

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    People used to say the same thing about the term ******.
     
  2. ktbballplaya

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    Exactly! Thats like saying we used to hire 50 n1ggers to pick cotton back in the day. They dont even hide the racism, but yall wetback spics vote for us anyway.. GOP is so sad

    This is the problem with most republicans today and in the future... They still stuck in the past! The fact that he feels ok about using that word because he grew up using it shows how republicans are never going to move forward and a huge reason why their future is clearly uncertain. Until they get rid off people like him, the Republican Party will successfully fail to exist and it'll be only because of them.
     
  3. giddyup

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    I think the N word is very different-- much stronger implications. It always had a destructive meaning attached to it.

    W is different. As I've pointed out, it was used in an official capacity-- a fact that no one seems to be willing to accept much less digest.

    This guy, to my knowledge, has no history of speaking this recklessly so maybe we should just cut him some slack instead of trying to string him up. He's 80 years old and grew up in a different time and place.

    My mother, gone now 7 years, was born in 1925 and grew up in Mississippi and was told as a girl that black people did not have a soul and were required to get off the sidewalk when a white person approached. I don't ever remember hearing her use the N word but I do remember her father using it occasionally.

    Stop making a totem out of a slip-up thus creating a lot of acrimony.
     
  4. bigtexxx

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    you might want to examine your own party's elected officials. To not do so would make you a hypocrite.

    http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/03/post_44.html#incart_river
     
  5. across110thstreet

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    Well done by House Speaker Boehner to be the bigger man and rise above the trash within his own party.
     
  6. Refman

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  7. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    The fact that bigtexxx has yet condemn these comments by the GOP is telling.
     
  8. rocketsjudoka

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    And "Darkie" was once the name of a toothpaste but I doubt a lot of people will use that term now. Also the Eisenhower Admin. was 50 years ago.

    You trying to defend or excuse this guy's remark is drawing more attention here on D & D than if you just left it as an insensitive out of touch old guy used an offensive term. Honestly I find the contortions you go through to try to excuse stuff like this more disturbing than the initial comment itself.
     
  9. giddyup

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    So now you know how I feel... however mis-directed you are!

    Besides this one single incidence of using this word, what evidence is there that he is a racist? Now before you answer, weigh the heavy accusation that that word carries.

    And this guy was already 30 fifty years ago, so he had been introduced to the term "wetback" some 20-25 years earlier as a boy on that farm when it was not such a politically loaded... so that 20-25 years later it would be the name of a government operation.

    My job is to trip up the lynch mobs that roam this board. You guys just look for boogeymen and will take any opportunity to manufacture one. I think people deserve more respect than that.
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

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    I don't know how you feel but I know what you post. Are you saying you aren't trying to excuse this?
    I have no idea what this guy's history is and frankly really don't care about it. I saw this story on another website and really didn't pay much attention to it until perusing this site to you defending this guy and excusing what is a blatantly offensive and racist statement used a context that was blatantly offensive.
    And like I said it wasn't that long ago there was a toothpaste called "Darkie" that doesn't make it right to use such a term in 2013. I'm willing to agree with you that the guy didn't realize such a term was considered so offensive now that means he is out of touch and insensitive. That is still no grounds to excuse it. This guy could be the nicest guy in the world. It doesn't mean that he didn't make a racist comment.
    So you are admitting to defending the guy and excusing the comment.
    You just see yourself as the defender of those misunderstood people making racist comments. At least this guy when he realized how offensive it was apologized. You on the other hand have decided to take up the banner to defend it.
     
  11. fchowd0311

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    People calm down. Racist people are just misunderstood. They really mean well:grin:
     
  12. giddyup

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    Of course I'm excusing this. The guy had a slip of the tongue. 75 years ago this was not as offensive as it is now; it was simply descriptive. If you read the stuff the legally-immigrated Spanish-speakers had an equivalent term-- "mojado" as I recall.

    A true "racist" doesn't have a slip of the tongue. There is a ceaseless pattern of recurring ugly speech. Is that the case here? No. Racists do no apologize either...


    A mere slip of the tongue. He used an archaic, old and familiar expression from his childhood. Why do you have to condemn him for it? It was a term that mostly referred to an illegal status.


    No, I have defended him from the over the top name-calling and condemnation from folks here. He should have never said it. I think it is telling, however, that the Alaska Public Radio station broadcast it "as is" without an explanation or apology.

    I think he apologized because an issue was made of it and it was politic to apologize. I imagine he is kind of bewildered at the fuss because it means something different to him than it does to you or the rest of the critics.

    I'm the ACLU of CF.... a place where it is popular to destroy people and their reputations. ;)
     
  13. RocketRaccoon

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    I hope all you young'uns have a wonderful old age where everything out of your mouth is not insulting to your grandkids...and I pray that your grandkids don't hang you from a cross because of said mistake.
     
  14. Hustle Town

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    I am a conservative and know they are never coming back to the Republican Party. They are brainwashed by Univision daily.
     
  15. fchowd0311

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    And you're brainwashed by a fairy tale book.... What's your point?
     
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    Two things.

    1. No I don't equate it. But if you aren't willing to say something to someone's face then it isn't nice enough to use when you're not talking directly to someone.

    2. You're white. Calling you a honky was never used to keep you separate and dehumanize you. The name just doesn't have the same stigma. It doesn't matter if Barkley and Chappelle say that every single day, it will never have the same history.
     
  17. CometsWin

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    Incredibly ironic.
     
  18. RedRedemption

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    TL;DR:
    If conservatives find racism from liberals then its legitimate.
    If liberals find racism from conservatives then we are lynch mobs manufacturing irrelevant and illegitimate stories?

    Hypocrites.
     
  19. Refman

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    You are apparently brainwashed by your inflated sense of self importance.

    If you were referring to the Bible as a fairy tale book, it is incredibly poor form to **** all over the religious beliefs of others on Easter.
     
  20. fchowd0311

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    I'm so sorry I was so insensitive to a person who said an entire race is brainwashed.

    It is incredibly poor form to **** all over an entire race.

    Why no condemnation for what someone said about an entire race. People choose to be religious. People do not choose to be born within a certain race. And yes religion is a form of brainwashing... I can point to the fact that majority of religious people are only religious because that is what their parents indoctrinated into them. Introducing (particularly to children) concepts with no basis in reality and with no supporting evidence whatsoever, and then reinforcing them with condemnation, judgment, and threats of punishment, continually and aggressively year after year is a form of intellectual abuse.
     
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