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Giving Lin less minutes is better for his overall career

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by glacier921, Mar 28, 2013.

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    I see you have created another piece that you can Ctrl C and v in many threads. Congratulations!
     
  2. RedRedemption

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    +/- is the dumbest stat ever.
     
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    otisthorpe3 is one of those guys, when during Linsanity, that thought "well he's having a nice run but he's probably a career back up."
     
  4. raskol

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    It's not the minutes so much but the distribution of the minutes.
     
  5. ComeBack

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    I wouldn't use per game numbers as those are dependent on the minutes you get per game. It's better to use advanced stats like PER, WS, and TS%.
     
  6. seven7seven

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    Lin needs to get traded to a team that will allow him to be the main ball-handler, even if it's in a inferior team. Lin's whole game and rhythm is predicated on this necessity. In the Rockets team, he's just the round peg being shoved into a square hole and that's unfair on him. Not blaming anyone but the situation is the way it is and as long as McHale lacks trust in Lin, he might as well look elsewhere for a better opportunity to shine.
     
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    opie you gone full goof.
     
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    Let's give zero minute to Lin from now on, so we can be assured that he will not get injured on a NBA basketball court for the rest of his life.
     
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    When Harden went something like 2 for 13, how can your +/- not be negative?

    This is when stat alone doesn't tell the whole story.:rolleyes:
     
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    NBA players play way too many minutes and this is why so many of them don't last and break down really quick. The teams in Europe did huge studies on this back in the 90s and the results of the tests all showed that players can't play at their best for more than 10 minutes.

    It also showed that players should not play more than 20-30 minutes a game, unless you want to destroy their bodies.

    Of course, the PED use of the NBA wasn't factored into this. But the point stands that NBA teams are way behind the times in sports science on this. Like 15 years behind. It's been proven for a long time that playing guys 35 to 40 minutes greatly reduces their effectiveness all around.

    It makes them much worse during each game, it wears them down during the year, and it shortens their careers. The NBA really is in the stone ages of sports science in how they handle rotation minutes.

    Popovich barely tries to give his players a rest and he gets criticized for it.
     
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    look Jeremy hasn't been saying anything because he's all class but he looks like he is showing sign of grief for Mchale. I.e Compare the benching to the beginning of the season vs now. In the begining even though he was benched, he still got up and cheered for his teammmate but now, he just zone out and sometime doesn't even see a ball flying at him.

    I believe there is a reason why all both of the rocket's past point guard left our franchise. Mchale doesn't know the plays and he just get mad when points are not being made but he doesn't know how to rectify it.
     
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    Giving Lin less minutes is also better for the franchise. But if we're really asking for things, I'd rather he got zero minutes so we could stop throwing games away.
     
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    otisthorpe3 Stop posting anything related to Lin already...
    We all know that u are a LOH and you post stupid ridiculous comments
     
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    If you are saying that Lin has contributed little or nothing to the team and the franchise this season, then you're seriously off the mark. I'm not saying Lin is the most important player but his contributions this season has played a significant part in the Rockets' success this season and unlike the coach and some players, he has taken accountability for his part in the team's failures too. Like the poster above said, Lin is looking an increasingly disillusioned player and a move away from the Rockets may suit both parties. Rocket will likely be Ok without Lin and Lin might do better or worse on another team, but what's clear is that Lin isn't compatible in McHale's Rockets.
     
  15. J Sizzle

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    More Lin = More Win


    Am I right, guys?
     
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    Random Fan, why cheers for Rockets?
    When trolling, you are not random, you definitely have a target, no?
     
  17. Haymitch

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    I did. But if you're refering to the ppg/apg stats I put about Teague, OK. Here are some other numbers comparing Teague to Lin.

    PER: 16.8 v 15.0
    WS/48: .114 v .098
    TS%: .549 v .537

    And when you look at their per 36 numbers you see the same thing: Teague outperforms Lin on everything except rebounding.

    To be honest I was surprised at how well Teague has been playing this season. I had no idea. I thought of him as a 6th man/scorer off the bench type guy.

    Anyway, I don't want to sound too harsh on Lin. I like him as a player, as a Rocket, and as a person. I want him to succeed; I want SAS to have to eat his words; I want Dolan to regret letting him go. But, of course, more than all that, I want to see the Houston Rockets succeed.

    And some of the criticisms against McHale or others about Lin's use/performance/minutes are just so off base that I can't resist budding in. In this particular case, I just wanted to give my take on Lin's alleged lack of playing time because I think that complaint in particular is insane.
     
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    This article assumes cause and effect. It totally ignores other factors, such as the talent level of the team. Superstars tend to play more minutes when their team has less talent. For example, Lebron was playing 40+ minutes with his no talent Cleveland teams, and 37-38 with the Heat. That said, Lebron will play about 3140 minutes this year, and Durant will play more. So I guess we can eliminate the Heat and Thunder as title contenders.
     
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    That can't be the only reason because Harden turns it over even more then Lin does and when handling the ball, tons of PGs get turn overs when their teammates are not where they should be to catch the ball. Lin is also a better scorer then Beverly when it comes to driving to the basket.

    Lin seems to get less minutes because the coaches prefer the speed that Beverly brings on defense, along with the energy. So at times it makes sense to pull Lin for Beverly or before him Douglas who was a more willing shooter, although less minutes by no means is helping Lin's career as it promotes the idea the coaches don't trust him and given this will be his first full season as a regular NBA rotational player let alone starter, he needs to get acclimated to the game, his teammates and develop his own talents, which he can't do riding the bench.
     
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    parsons-gets to play, while shooting like crap
    Last 5 Games
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    Lin-gets benched the second he makes a mistake
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