There are 2 types of homers, the type all commentators are is the one that talks about how their team could come back when the game is realistically over and are always optimistic etc, this is ok. The annoying homers are the foul homers, elliott is the worst ever, the lakers and jazz are schmucks, worrell and bullard are about midrange. The only two i've seen on that front that seem to be impartial are frazier on msg and wesley for the pelicans.
That was definitely a foul. One sneaky foul that doesn't always get called but definitely was a foul.
Worrell and Bullard definitely are but Clyde is not. In fact sometimes it annoys me how he praises the other team and players too much. Still if he knew what he was talking about a little more he would be refreshing.
harden is a damned good player, but it does make me nervous how he tries to get those calls sometimes. at one point late in the last game with the spurs, he tried to drive and get a call but the refs weren't having it and it was a crucial possession for the spurs in the final minutes. i understand superstar calls, but id rather harden become a player who doesn't go that route since he can create his own shot.
I've noticed watching games on TWC League Pass (they usually only show one broadcast of the game, so you see a lot of other announcers) that Denver's announcers are the whiniest that I've seen, while New Orleans are quite impartial and respectful. The calls and non-calls in the SA game were terrible on the whole floor all night, for both sides. I can see where they'd think that, but to think it was all one-sided for us is just butt hurt on us getting that call behind the 3 line in the final seconds. I can see where it wouldn't sit well, but things happen, and they were all over him all night so I can't see where they think Harden is a flopper. He does create situations where contact is hard to avoid, but he also isn't going in with pure reckless abandon.He is definitely trying to make the shots, though he is looking to get fouled. When you show the ball like he does, you have to prepare for the contact. That said, I do think he whines a little bit when he doesn't get the calls that he probably should. It's a fine line... the league wants you to drive the paint, so he does, and when showing the ball that way they are going to swing at it... he's just strong enough to hang on to it and extend so they get the arms... and often finish the bucket. He's somewhat unique in that way. It's not like a Kevin Martin thing where he's jumping straight into people with his body and elbows.
I have to disagree with a few posters who say that Harden goes for the flop instead of making the shot. Don't get me wrong, he definitely flops. However, much unlike offensive floppers like Nowitzki and Ginobli when they were younger, Harden does not do "the starfish" and jump into the air spreading out all of his limbs like he's in a Broadway musical, giving up entirely on the shot. There are floppers who, when making their shot, truly do not even try to sink it. Harden always goes for the shot. And he makes them through tough contact at a shocking rate. I hate the head flopping, which he does like 30 times per game, even when a defender picks him up at halfcourt. I don't like it when he runs directly into a defender who is already backpedaling on the break and 'bounces' off of him. As he did in his game winning shot Sunday, when he blows past his man, then suddenly stops and his defender runs into his back- that is questionably a foul, but he does flop and exaggerate the contact there. Defenders shouldn't just run into the back of the guy they're guarding. However, when Harden goes into the lane and puts the ball right out in front of him and the defenders hack him on his arms, those are fouls. Furthermore, many of those hacks go uncalled. You can't flop or exaggerate someone hacking your arms. And he still finishes the shot at an astonishing rate. These plays make up the lion's share of Harden's trips to the line. Earlier in the season, when he was still adjusting to being the number one star on the team, and was being double and triple teamed, he would egregiously flop to get calls when he thought he wasn't getting whistles. Thankfully he has chilled and adjusted since then. As for the butthurt Spurs fans: - One of the most hilarious moments of the night was provided by a phantom foul Tim Duncan with no defender within four feet. It was like an ironic comedy sketch about star calls. - Did Harden flop on the 3-point call? Nope, he put up the shot and Leonard took a risk hitting his elbow. Sometimes that's called, sometimes the ref doesn't see it. The ref was six feet away, did not make a late call (they'll often wait to see if the shot is off), whistled it at that very moment. - On Harden's game winning shot, did he get the call on his flop? Nope. Did it go in? Yep.
The MSG commentary is the best in the league, and that's even after Marv Albert left. Those guys know their stuff, and don't slant information. I watch the Knicks almost entirely because of them. Pelicans have a pretty good crew from the limited amount of games I've watched. I don't like our commentators or Brooklyn's, and I despise the Celtics broadcasters.
Denver's commentators are top 3 worse in the league. They especially had no right to complain against the Hornets last night since at one point they had a 37-9 FT advantage in the 4th and this was AWAY on New Orleans homefloor. I think they were extra butthurt their streak was being broken. Our 27-21 FT advantage at home against the Spurs wasn't even a big deal in comparison. As for Harden drawing that 3pt foul..it WAS a legit call. They whistled Harden for the same exact call against Leonard or Green earlier in the game.
Harden doesn't flop but if you flop on him, he will get you back. I sense he practice the same off-balance shots Kevin Martin use to do in practice lol So I don't see a problem with him taking a off-balance while trying to draw a foul.
I was checking out the other site to read some more comments from Spurs fans about the game, and a Rockets fan there had this in his signature. Maybe everyone else has seen it, but I hadn't. Not bad. From Kai over there: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211370&
Well yeah, when you have Mike Breen commentating every game, it's like watching it on ABC. Other than the Knicks, I think the Warriors have pretty good/unbiased commentators. Always liked them. I hate the Laker announcers, and Cleveland back when they had LeBron. ugh.... "The L Train!!!!" hated that shizz..
I love seeing Harden flop it puts a big smile in my FACE! Honestly, it's payback for all those years other stars flopped on us and got star treatment back when we were starless and were the laughingstock of the league, FEAR THE BEARD!
Maybe so, but calling it when the team getting the call is down by just a few with just a few seconds left in the game is not the same. Often times they'd let that go, especially with someone who does get the benefit of so many whistles, rightly or wrongly. It was a legit call, but they don't always call stuff like that. Interestingly, they fouled him on the last shot he made, and the refs didn't call that.
Pretty funny stuff. "Rockets are a bull**** team anyways. Relying on three pointers for a third of your offense isn't going to get you far in the playoffs. "
This. Lol even hardens game winning shot he tried to back into the defender knowing his defender will chase him full speed, watch that last shot again lol that's why he looked off balance
Spurs fans hate Harden because as a bench guy, he showed them what Ginobli does to other teams. Harden=spur killer
