Their issue is the idea that marriage is between man and a woman, ordained by God. I personally don't care about the term and believe it should be legal. As far as I'm concerned, marriage is BOTH a religion term and a legal term now. There's no reason for the government to deny people the right to enter into a legal contract regarding taxes, inheritance, insurance, etc. with whatever adult they want, be it male or female. I do have concern that there will be a push to force churches to marry gay couples and I have a problem with that. Before you say that would never happen, there has been talk from some groups that they'd push to have the license revoked of any minister/preacher/etc. who wouldn't perform same sex marriages.
By implying it is a choice, this means that everyone has the potential to be gay. This also means you at some point in your life found yourself sexually attracted to the same gender and you consciously suppressed it. Unless you were presented with the choice, why would you believe it is a choice. I cannot say I have ever been in that situation. And the data shows genetics is more significant than environment in predicating homosexuality, even in twin-twin studies.
This I would have a problem with. The state should definitely recognize gay marriage, but it's up to individual churches (or organizations) to decide what they want to do. That's their right in the First amendment. A gay catholic might not like that he can't get married in a catholic church, but that's his own personal problem, not the govt.
Ok, your right, i do find the thought of a couple of dudes bending each other over pretty disgusting. But does not make me like or respect them any less.
I have never seen conclusive data that proves your point. Please provide a link to your proof, or your point is invalid.
So at what age did you decide that while sex with a man would be satisfactory you would prefer it with a woman?
Yes, by a choice, I meant that everyone can choose to adopt a homosexual lifestyle. My point is that you are not conceived as a homosexual being as caused by genetics. In a completely separate argument, some people argue that homosexuality in humans is unnatural and will result in extinction due to natural selection. These aren't my beliefs; what do you guys think about the relationship between evolution and homosexuality?
The equal rights argument is garbage. Everybody has the right to marry somebody of the opposite sex (assuming legal age, not family, etc). So there are equal rights today. The question is whether you want to redefine rights based on sexual preference. and they shouldn't be using the marriage term. You'll need to use a non-religious term if you want to join into a union with your gay ass pal. Sorry.
This study actually proves my point: "Thus, childhood gender nonconformity does not appear to be an indicator of genetic loading for homosexuality." "However, the rate of homosexuality among nontwin biological siblings, as reported by probands, 9.2% (13/142), was significantly lower than would be predicted by a simple genetic hypothesis and other published reports."
Conclusive data doesn't exist. Then again, homosexuality is not a simple gene mutation either. It's a phenotype with an complex genetic basis. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16369763
provide a link or your argument is invalid. there's studies that "prove" their point on both sides of the argument. schizophrenia is a genetic disorder and there has been studies on identical twins that prove if it effects one there is a 50% chance it will effect the other. so, i don't get what you're trying to say. unless you think that if one identical twin is gay then the other has to be, which is ridiculous. what?? how many people do you know use the term "gay" for happy?? there's nothing perverse about it. it's just as perverse as the term "straight"
What is a homosexual lifestyle? Does it only include men who have sex with men? Enlighten us. Homosexuality exists in nature outside of our species, and there is no reason to suspect it'll "go extinct". Especially if there are any contributions in-utero microenvironment on the infants eventual sexuality (which is an environmental exposure). Evolution's Rainbow is a good primer for sexuality in the animal kingdom. http://www.ucpress.edu/book.php?isbn=9780520260122
Marriage is a religious term? Sure, the word can mean a religious ceremony, but to many people it has broader meaning for both relationships and legal/social standing. When my wife and I discuss our marriage, we usually talk about our relationship, not the day we got married at the Methodist Chapel. When I do my taxes as "married filing jointly," the IRS does not ask my religion.
