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When Parsons Isn't Hitting His 3's We are Average

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Old Man Rock, Mar 25, 2013.

  1. rocketsfan4

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    Very good post IMO, and I am a huge Parsons fan. The bottom line is that you can't have one of your outside guys who can't hit the open shot. If Parsons is missing from 3, he's got to step in and shoot the 17 footer. He's got the height to get the midrange shot off. I've been very impressed with his little runners and bankers around 5-10 feet. If he can expand that consistency to be deadly from 15-19 feet, then at least he has a Plan B when his 3-point shot is off. Until then, I would be fine with Parsons as our modern day Bobby Jones off the bench if we did acquire a deadly 3. Parson would be great with more energy to play defense with fewer minutes.
     
  2. finsraider

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    Parsons is doing great for a sophomore. His shot will get more consistent with time.

    He is our future 3 unless Paul George or LBJ becomes available, which is obviously unlikely.
     
  3. AggNRox

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    i think his 3 shot is a little bit flat.
     
  4. alethios

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    He does have a funky backwards lean to his shot, esp from the 3pt line, almost like he's kicking his feet forward and leaning back. I don't know if that was by design to be further from the defender or a bad habit that was never properly addressed. He would benefit from learning to jump straight up when he shoots, which will also help him get more of an arc on his shot.
     
  5. Old Man Rock

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    Exactly... he needs more arc on his shot. I have never seen a great shooter shoot like that. Of course if he makes them at a consistent high clip then who am I to critique him. I am just afraid his great displays of shooting or more the exception than the norm and his poor shooting maybe who he really is or something closer to the truth.
     
  6. v3.0

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    Thought the same about his shooting form. Too much fading away and the shot looks flat most times. Relies a lot on his body like a catapult when it should be more wrist and elbow form. Can't help but wonder if he adopted Larry Bird's shooting form, his was smooth and effortless; flick of wrist from any spot on the floor was still money even if his body was contorted out of position.
     
  7. RickyNewport

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    When Parsons played in the All Star Rising Challenge game he was one of the least talented players on the court. Dude has a "Goofy Factor" to his game. He can't create his own shot so his offensive success predicates on Harden and Lin creating open shots for him and it's not like the guy is a defensive stopper.

    Just because Parsons has been the 2nd leading scorer on this team doesn't say much at all and plus McHale leaves him on the court for 36 minutes a game trying to make a star out of him so he gets plenty of opportunities (when James Anderson should be getting some of those minutes).

    Parsons is one of the most valued players in the NBA because of his cheap contract. Morey should sale now while his stock is high. With the offense the Rockets run that position can be filled easily. Martell Webster for example would fit in perfectly and give more production.
     
  8. meh

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    Pretty much this. The difference between making an extra 3 pointer per game(+3 points) is basically the difference between the Rockets and the Clippers.

    So yeah, making even one more 3 pointer per game helps A LOT. Making 2 more? We'd be championship contenders.
     
  9. Old Man Rock

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    If you weren't posting I wouldn't know you were funny. ;)

    Yeah I mean funny like a clown.
     
  10. don grahamleone

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    Nice thread. I'll add that when Parsons decides he's going to shut his man down, we are a much much better team as well. So many fast break points start with Chandler's D.
     
  11. DVauthrin

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    Chandler Parsons is in his 2nd year in the NBA. And instead of hitting the dreaded sophomore slump, he's improved his game. Last year, he wouldn't even be taking these shots.

    He's shooting 48% from the floor and 38% from three. Go ahead and list the perimeter players that can say they are doing that, the list won't be long. He's not valuable because of a cheap contract. He's valuable because he's a baller that plays both ends of the floor. He's also a good passer for his position.
     
  12. rolyat93

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    Makes you laugh either way.:p
     
  13. DVauthrin

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    If Morey trades Parsons for anything less than getting the second superstar to pair with Harden, he should be fired. Parsons can be a legit third option on a championship team, and has a wonderful all around game.

    If the Rockets replaced Parsons with Martell Webster, the team would be much worse off. Who cares if Parsons isn't as athletic as a few guys and has a "goofy" game. The kid can shoot, score, pass, and defend. Players like that are rare.
     
  14. Old Man Rock

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    Yes because you are so slow and do not get it.

    The point is harden drives to the basket and creates openings and Lin drives and creates openings and we need someone else to take advantage of those openings. This offense is dependent on that and since we can't expect anything from the center and can't depend on the PF to do that. Then yes a good 3pt shooting SF is essential.

    Parsons is inconsistent right now. He is inconsistent to the point McHale has to play a SG at the PF spot. Okay McHale may do that anyway but if Delfino/Dmo and Chandler are not shooting well then it is difficult to win. Yes that is not Rocket science. Nor is the fact that Parsons hasn't proven to be a consistent 3 pt shooter. It was just an observation I was making. This team needs a very good 3 pt shooting SF. If Parsons is not that 3 pt Shooting SF than maybe we need to look elsewhere.

    I acknowledged that it would be hard to get a sf that could do some of the other things Parsons brings to the table that would also be a killer 3pt shooter. Paul George ain't walking through that door. Perhaps we could get Battier back? Still the point is Parsons has not proven to me and I only speak for myself, he has not proven to be consistent behind the arc and that is what concerns. if you do not agree fine but on't be stupid about it.
     
  15. RickyNewport

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    I disagree with you about Webster. He's a much better three point shooter than Parsons and he's a good defender so the drop off wouldn't be as bad as you make it out to be.

    But if Morey has to package Parsons to trade for Love, LMA, or even Ryan Anderson (who is the power forward that fits best in the Rockets system at a cheaper price) he should do it.

    Lin, Asik, and Parsons all enter free agency at the same time. Morey will trade one or two of these guys before that time comes because the Rockets won't be able to pay all three.
     
  16. jocar

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    some highlights before he came to Houston
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  17. Aruba77

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    Can i just say that i think Chandler Parsons is the second best player on our team, and is worth being a core building block. In just his second year in the league he's improved every aspect of his game; most importantly, his greatest weakness from last year ...shooting. Every time i put a ceiling on what this kid can do, he goes out and exceeds it. I love watching his game. He can do it all. That much improvement in just his second year is a sure sign that this kid is special. He's completely won me over. His blend of size, athleticism, ball handling, and BBIQ is truly rare.

    If we strike out on creating our own Dwight/Smith/Harden big 3 scenario, i think we should plan on reupping Parsons on a long-term deal, and trying to get another allstar. I honestly think Parsons is a building block. I've seen enough.

    and to speak briefly to the topic of the thread ...when Parson's isn't shooting the 3 well, he just decides to go to the hoop ...which he can do with ease. Such a versitile player; the kind that can still contribute greatly when his shot isn't falling.
     
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    Parsons is behind Asik in my opinion currently for third best Rocket. Lin may be better if he was in a different system.
     
  19. RedDragon01

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    It's as if the OP continues to ignore this post. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the premise of the first post was that we need a starting SF that is a consistent 3 point shooting threat to win games.

    But if these numbers are accurate, it shows that Parsons is the most consistent primary rotation 3 point shooting perimeter player on the team. Parsons has the lowest variance in 3 point shooting in wins and losses of the 4 players listed:
    Parsons' W-L variance: .027
    Delfino's W-L variance: .090
    Harden's W-L variance: .087
    Lin's W-L variance: .036
    Team's W-L variance: .062

    Parsons is the epitome of a consistent 3 point shooter on the team. His variance between wins and losses is half of the team's variance in wins and losses. As well, he's shooting .381 from 3 this season, well above the standard for a 3 point shooter.

    I still haven't seen a counter-argument to this by the OP. It completely renders this thread inert.

    If you're looking for a reason why this team is losing (or only beating #1 seeded teams by such a small margin), I think you're going to have to search deeper than this.
     
  20. Easy

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    Both Parsons and Delfino are inconsistent. If one of them is hot, we usually have a good chance of winning.

    Of course, Lin and Harden are inconsistent shooters too. But we need their play making even when their shots are off. Harden can score even when he's not shooting well. Lin, on the other hand, is a liability when he can't shoot.
     

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