The South Still Lies About the Civil War & Slavery

#1 Who the hell said anything about NYC?
#2 I have lived in the Ohio, Chicago, Houston, Atlanta and Lake Charles... and the level of racism in the mid west is superior to what I have seen in the South for whatever reason.

 

look, I knew exactly who would be the leading poster in a thread about Civil War and slavery, but calling out a certain poster, baiting him, and bringing up smelly indians from another thread isn't the right way to go about things...

 

Then be careful about calling them racists. You can't get a dialogue about racial reconciliation and justice if you start the conversation by calling the other participants racists. If they're wearing a hood and reading Mein Kampf, fine. But constructive conversations can still be had with people who disagree with you about the cause of the Civil War.

 

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Where is this conversation you speak of? We're on a message board. I've spoken to these kinds of folks many times before. They use to be my neighbors. We've had swastikas painted on the outside of our house before. I grew up in the south. There's a freaking lot of racists. I don't think many of them care to be honest.

You don't engage them in conversation - you call them out for what they are. Shame is a lot more powerful of a weapon than reason with them.

 

It's not a matter of cultural pride as much as it is a lack of education and upward mobility. It's also a result of still deep segregation. You don't have many integrated neighborhoods.

 

You cited McPherson's "Battle Cry of Freedom".

Excellent book about the Civil War, btw. I read that and "Team of Rivals".

I'll move on to Shelby Foote, but gotta take a deep breath before the plunge: 3 volumes, 2500 pages.

 

It appears Alabama "legalized" interracial marriage in 2000. Why do you keep posting that they still have this law on the books?

http://definitions.uslegal.com/m/miscegenation/

EDIT: When Alabama voted to legalize interracial marriage, it was the last state to do so, thus no state has this law on their books.

 

I'm not a Civil War guy in terms of reading about the war itself and the battles. I'm more interested in the causes and consequences and the reverberations we still feel today. In no particular order, my Top 10 list of must read books on the topic:

Battle Cry of Freedom, James McPherson
The Fiery Trial: Abraham Lincoln and American Slavery, Eric Foner
Lincoln’s Virtues: An Ethical Biography, William Lee Miller
President Lincoln: The Duty of a Statesman, William Lee Miller
Arguing About Slavery: The Great Battle in the United States Congress, William Lee Miller
Race and Reunion: The Civil War in American Memory, David Blight
The Impending Crisis, 1848–1861, David Potter
In the Presence of Mine Enemies: War in the Heart of America, 1859-1863, Edward Ayers
The Destructive War: William Tecumseh Sherman, Stonewall Jackson, and the Americans, Charles Royster
This Republic of Suffering: Death and the American Civil War, Drew Gilpin Faust