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How many coaches in the NBA do you feel is good at rotations?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by meh, Mar 20, 2013.

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  1. meh

    meh Member

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    This season, I'm beginning to sometimes read opponents message boards in order to get a better understanding of teams beyond the Rockets. And I found that a common theme among most NBA fans is that their own coach is bad at rotations.

    Which of course, is hilarious since it's also a staple of clutchfans. So I pose the question. How many other NBA coaches make solid rotation choices?

    I can think of one: Popovich. He is most certainly the gold standard in coaching. Everyone else, I believe, has a lot of issues with this very murky concept of having bad rotations.
     
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    Stan Van Gundy would be great for the team.
     
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    *are..... sorry kind if a grammar natzi
     
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    I tried getting at this with the GSW and Jazz forums a while back but no one on CF really said anything about my post. It is my opinion that every single team has fans who yell about the substitution patterns. I see it regarding guys who are in foul trouble, guys who are injured, and guys who are otherwise being goons in the locker room. The "why he no play syndrome" is rampant among NBA fans.
     
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    *of ....damn autocorrect.....

    Now adding to this thread, truthfully I think most coaches have a good knack for rotation, its just that this late in the season teams generally shorten their rotation so you can't give everyone a look, e.g. jones
     
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    The fans of every team think the coach sucks at rotations. Fans don't know much.
     
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    Cleverly disguised thread to excuse McHale from his weakness, so you can keep propping up the McHale is the reason the youngest team in the NBA is in the playoff picture

    Next up: which NBA coach staggers the minutes of its top two offensive players, and it's SG like a PG?

    Smh
     
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    Fans always do better rotation than coaches, that's a fact.
     
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    You mean to tell me our coach can't be criticized? As I said in the other coach mchale thread, He has what it takes to be a great coach but he has to do some looking in the mirror too. It's not just the rotations.
     
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    It is sort of like the saying that the most popular person on any college campus is the backup quarterback -- and by that I mean, fans always question the coach's decision on who to play because it is the easiest thing for our simple minds. It is much easier for us to question why he plays player x instead of player y than it is for us to question the intricacies of x's and o's.

    Rotations matter, and some coaches are better at it than others, and it is something that fans should definitely discuss, but the reason that criticism is so much more ubiquitous than more analytic criticisms is that it is an easy thing for uninformed people to formulate in their mind....myself included.
     
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    Assuming a head coach and about 3 assistant coaches per team, I'd say about... 120. What percentage of fans do you suppose have a good feel for rotations?
     
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    The thing with rotations is that it's easy to complain about without actually ever having to be wrong. If your team loses a game, you can complain and throw out your hypothetical rotation and say that would have changed things. But there's no actual way of knowing so you won't ever be wrong. So you can just sit in your ivory tower throwing out criticisms and suggestions without ever having to own up to it.

    That, and like HamJam said, most fans don't know squat so it's easier for us to just look at simple things like who's on the court instead of talking about offensive sets or whatever.
     
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    So which coach is this a strength of?
     
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    It's true, most fans question their coaches rotational strats. I guess it comes down to the regularity with which they can agree with or credit their HC's rotations being responsible for aiding the team to a win. I criticise McHale a lot but I'm not sure of many coaches in this league who I could say are definitely better than him, and it's disingenuous given that we're only looking the context of the rotations with comparatively superfluous information.

    Only coaches I can say I've been confident with their rotations are SVG and Popovich and they've both had their moments, particularly Pop, where I scratch my head. I could also say Scott Brooks Del Negro to an extent are OK with their rotations, but of course a lot is left to be desired in terms of the rest of their coaching.
     
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    Lionel Hollins tonight was terrific.

    Dwayne Casey is guilty of doing exactly what McHale does. Trusting bench guys to much, waiting until way to late to put in starters. Not playing centers.

    Some Laker fans love Mike Dantoni's rotations, others hate it. I personally liked his.

    Yes fans of all teams critisce coaches rotations. Doesn't mea McHale should be excused for some of the genuine silly stuff he does but I understand your point.
     
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    But yeah, doesn't mean I'm OK with Delfino playing 4, Patterson playing 5 with Asik warming the bench, Lin being iced out, Parsons being the only 'play-maker', 5 man bench dumps, Greg & Robinson front-courts etc. though sometimes I can't blame him.
     
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    Again, quick google search

    http://boards.grizzliesonline.com/index.php?showtopic=13573

    http://boards.grizzliesonline.com/index.php?showtopic=8376&st=0

    http://boards.grizzliesonline.com/index.php?showtopic=14691&st=0

    So if every coach suck at something, and it's a job that only has 30 openings, pays millions of dollars, is the reason

    A) Coaching is an under-saturated field where smart people ignore the vocation despite the fact that it pays so much better than lawyers, doctors, most Wall Street employees
    B) NBA GMs who are also paid millions are all stupid and purposely hire people who can't do the job
    C) Coaches know more than we do and are simply doing the best they can
     
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    Not Doc Rivers.
     
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    I hate seeing jordan crawford playing for that team..
     

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