Thank you. And not even PPat level... Half of these idiots are clamoring for him to be playing like Chris Webber or something.
Understand that the Rockets haven't been in the playoffs for the last five years in a row. Before the trade, commentators across the country were talking about the potential of a "first round upset" by the Rockets. I think what it boils down to is that most of us Rockets fans would rather see the Rockets in the second round of the playoffs this year, and next year, than to not see the Rockets make the playoffs at all because we're too busy developing "projects". So yes, TRob will probably get better: but how much better is the question? So far this season TRob has played in like 65 games, and his season high for points is 12. By comparison, TJOnes had a couple of 20 point games; and D-Mo had a game where he scored 13 points in like 5 minutes. If TRob's ceiling is 9 pts, 8 rebs a game, and he won't get to that level until three years from now, are we as Rox fans willing to sacrifice the next two seasons to wait around for that? Rox fans are sick of losing and missing the playoffs. We want to win now.
Is it too much to ask that Robinson plays well enough to earn more than 5 minutes a game in the most recent games? Is it too much to ask for him to have an ORtg of more than 1 point per possession? Is it too much to ask him to turn over the basketball in less than 20% of his possessions? I am not asking him to have a .600 TS% like Patterson, let alone Allstar level performance. I am asking for basic competence-- somewhere above Jan Vesely.
IMO, the trade isn't about TRob, TD, or PPat. It's about giving DMo more burn. Morey=Bean McHale=Howe PPat, Morris=Pena DMo=Hattenberg
The Rockets didn't need to trade Patterson to get DMo. They already had DMo. Also I think DMo has a much bigger upside than TRob; in fact he has a big upside period. Month by month DMo's body is changing and you can see improvement on the court as well. Defensively he is much better now than he was at the beginning of the season. Like Lin missing 3's at the beginning of the season, so now DMo is missing them, probably because of nerves. Ideally he should come off the bench where he can be the main scoring option, and without drivers like LIn and Harden he can be free to work his magic in the post. DMo actually was quoted as saying that the player who helped his development the most--both on and off the court--was Patrick Patterson. I think the ideal situation would have been PPat starting, DMo coming off the bench--and developing slowly, without pressure, meanwhile PPat could mentor him.
Well here's the reality my man... The Rockets are not going to win now. This team is still a few years away from truly being competitive. Making the playoffs, which still very well could happen, and stealing a first round series, which still very well could happen, are not the primary goal. Sooner you accept that the better.
Man, good for TD. I always liked the guy. Now the question is, can he do it on a consistent basis to justify more playing time? Hope so.
If your goal is "championship or bust" than you are riding a delusion. There is only one team that will win the championship these next five years, and that team is Miami. And the crazy thing is--that the better they get, the better they will get, as more and more top free agents will want to go play there. This year it was Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis; next year it might be Chris Paul and DeMarcus Cousins. Try beating that. I want to be emporer of the world too, but the reality of the sitatuion is that the Rox haven't been in the playoffs the past five years, and that before you become great, you first have to be good. Top free agents will not sign with the Rockets this summer, or any summer, if the Rox are not a competitive playoff team this year.
You see that's the problem BEFORE the trade. McHale only played DMo during garbage time. Maybe you need to watch the movie "Moneyball" to understand what I was talking about.
I agree with the reasoning but he could have simply only traded marcus morris to give DMO more time. then again, morey is always looking big picture even if a playoff birth is on the line.
Morey could but that won't stop McHale playing Delfino at 4. Morey is looking ahead but McHale is looking at NOW. McHale couldn't care less about developing any of our rookies for the future. He just wants to rack up wins on his coaching resume. I have no doubt Morey is very very high up on DMo to pull those trades on McHale.
Kings fans are already creating Patrick Patterson and Toney Douglas highlight reels. Haven't seen Houston fans creating the Francisco Garcia and T-Rob highlight reels.
Then I guess Morey is "riding a delusion", because he's making moves with potential and future in mind, rather than short term benefits, so hopefully you're cool with that. If the short term was on Morey's mind, then Morris and Patterson would certainly still be in Houston. Instead, Morey wanted Robinson, who is raw, but someone he thinks has more upside than Morris or Patterson, and he also gets DMO starting, who is raw, but ALSO has more upside than both Morris or Patterson.
Yes. Let's add Chris Paul and Cousins to Miami. Why stop there?! Let's add in Dwight to that team too. Salary cap, what's that?!
Can't agree more. Besides, Rox not only needs a star, it needs a solid bench too. It's so sad to see that Rox was going strong before the trade but quite shaky now.
His role on the team is a perfect compliment to James Harden's skill set because he can defend other point guards while spotting up on the perimeter waiting for the defense to collapse on Harden. Thing is he can't efficiently make plays but then again we have Parsons and Harden for that so his weakness covers up well. I honestly think once Lin is able to develop and consistently hit a floater, we can duplicate a Spurs back court-lite. (Parker/Manu combo).
"Toney Douglas was incredible (Tuesday night)," said center DeMarcus Cousins. "A seasoned point guard can run a team, and that's what he did tonight. His defense out there was incredible." The Kings were up 98-96 with 3:43 to play when Douglas hit three consecutive three-pointers, the last coming from 29 feet to beat the shot clock and give the Kings a 107-98 lead with 2:06 left. "In the fourth quarter, it was crunch time, winning time," Douglas said. "I know when I was in the huddle I was like, 'Just focus on defense, who cares on offense?' We've got to get stops." Douglas also had the task of defending All-Star point guard Chris Paul. Paul finished with 11 points and 15 assists. He shot 2 of 10 and had three points and two assists in the fourth quarter as the Clippers (46-22) struggled to find a rhythm to close the game. "(Douglas) has the ability to pressure the ball," said Kings coach Keith Smart. "He did that in college and in his career as a pro. Now being able to manage the floor and having the right guys on the floor with him has allowed him to make some plays. The guy is a pro." Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/03/20/5277022/douglas-incredible-as-kings-stun.html#storylink=cpy
