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Who is the Leader of this team?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by spankz141, Mar 7, 2013.

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Who is the leader?

  1. Harden

    363 vote(s)
    46.1%
  2. Lin

    234 vote(s)
    29.7%
  3. Parsons

    80 vote(s)
    10.2%
  4. Delfino

    10 vote(s)
    1.3%
  5. Brooks

    22 vote(s)
    2.8%
  6. Other

    13 vote(s)
    1.7%
  7. No Leader

    65 vote(s)
    8.3%
  1. ComeBack

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    The leader is either Parsons or Lin, although the irrelevant rookie comment after the warriors game have be questioning Parsons a bit.

    I would say Harden is more of an inspirational leader. Who leads by example?
     
  2. Sports2012

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    I can't believe that after so much said, you still don't get it.

    It's not about the Harvard. It's not about the school. It's about the leadership training and development program, and the selection process before it to get a chance to go into that program.

    Leaders are not born. Leader are developed through a T&D program. A good program shortens the time to get the trainee ready to perform well in a leader position for any organization, basketball included.

    There are people who become a leader without going through a more formal process. It just takes longer time, more trial and error, more cost of opportunity. They may still make it, but when they look back, they would think taking some good training would have been an easier route.

    Bill Gates became one of the most successful businessmen and richest people without finishing his college education. But does that mean quitting school is the best way to become a successful businessman and rich people?

    This is why is normal to advice people to get a formal education, and leadership is part of a good education, especially one that emphasizes preparing future leaders for the country. Do you know why LeBron James is promoting education in the media? Do you know why Shaquille O'Neal pursued a doctoral degree in human resources development even after his peak of NBA career?

    Whatever your issue is with Harvard, this is not about it. Drop it.

    You definitely can get good leadership training and development without going to Harvard. But no one can fool himself that he already know how to be a good leader when he doesn't, and that a good program would expedite the process.

    Whoever knows how to prepare himself for a leader's role will get it sooner, whether it's through Harvard or other training organization.

    For people who choose to do it the harder way, good luck.

    End of discussion.
     
  3. sirbaihu

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    You're still just saying guys who did some kind of education program are more suited to be leaders on NBA teams. Go tell it to Kobe. Go tell it to Lebron, since you brought him up.

    I grant you that leadership programs can be helpful and education is good. That's just not relevant to who is the leader of the Rockets.
     
  4. rayrocket

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    I would say answer is Jeremy if the original question is 'who will be the leader of Rockets?'
    Time will tell, Jeremy Lin will prove it.
     
  5. redearth

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    Although Harvard can count many alumni who have ascended to prominent leadership positions, the reasons they have accomplished what they have, is far more complex than can be explained by the assertion that Harvard is a "leadership training organization". As much as it's possible that one's leadership can be developed at Harvard, many come to the school with strong leadership qualities as part of who they are. Some would argue that the seeds of leadership are planted in the home environment before children enter the school stream.

    My observations of life, limited as they are, tells me that the "harder way" (as you put it) is actually one where the parents have few leadership qualities. But that's not to say that some kid can't work hard, get into a school like Harvard, get to rub shoulders with peers who are already leaders, and pick up a few things about leadership.
     
  6. pho

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    no, they don't look at leadership, they look at a person's ability to be a team member and specialize in whatever role they have. they look for team players. things dont work out if you just group together everyone who is a "leader."

    and this poll is very surprising. I fully expected harden to be the top choice, but i guess it does make some sense that he isnt. he doesnt coordinate enough, and seems too casual at times.
     
  7. grauser01

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    Harden is the best player but not a leader. He is more a loner. I think Lin is more a leader if the coaches trust him more.
     
  8. jocar

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    Bunch of insecure peeps distorting everything into a 'Jeremy Lin (and us) vs. the world' competition. They seem to enjoy turning his best allies into their/his enemies, so they can hi-five each other as Mchale/Harden/Houston haters or rally together as self-appointed victims of a racist and/or evil organization.
    Great bonding experience! 9/10

    [​IMG]
     
  9. redearth

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    When people are involved with a like-minded group of peers, it all feels so normal, and it's hard to understand how it all looks from the outside.
     
  10. chenglug

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    Need a veteran to be the leader, like Shane or chuck
     
  11. Sports2012

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    No one on the Rockets team is a clear leader yet. And no matter who you say is the leader here, you can't impose that on the players. So It will only be an exercise among the members here.

    Also I have repeatedly said we should let the players develop and choose the leader(s) among themselves.

    This is why I chose to comment from the very beginning by saying Lin is more ready to be the leader of the team, rather than saying he is the leader of the team.

    This is a comment absolutely relevant to the thread, whether you like it or not.
     
  12. IronicMan

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    Morey will lead this team to the promise land.
     
  13. Sports2012

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    Thank you for your observations. And it doesn't have to be Harvard, any training organization, including some universities, that offer a good leadership training program will help. But it's undeniable that they do have one of the best programs among universities.

    The reason why many of those who got into Harvard already have the leadership quality is because they are required to provide evidence of that when they send in their applications.

    I was surprised to hear first time from a Harvard grad, who happened to be the current captain of their water polo team and the former captain of the Junior Olympic team, that thousands of applicants were rejected every year not because they had inferior academic scores but because they failed to provide any proof that they had ever been in a leader position, even when they had equally great grades. Even though I already knew that they want to have more of their graduates in leadership positions later, I was still surprised to learn that so much weight they have put on leadership potential in their selection criteria.

    Since I have already said Harvard is NOT in and of itself a leadership training academy early on, so some one else might have made the assertion you said.
     
  14. Nook

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    Y'all are funny. The leader is Harden and it really isn't close. The GM, coach and a number of players have called him the leader.
     
  15. howo13579

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    lol it's funny seeing people here arguing whether getting an ivy league degree qualifies more of a leader or not. Just take a look at our bunch of "leaders" in corrupted politicians and wall street. Getting a Harvard degree (in economy, political science or whatever those nonproductive and useless degrees) just means you could have better connection and eventually more money. That's all there's to it. Anyway both Harden and Lin are leaders. You always see Lin talking to teammates telling what they should do during time outs. Results usually end up Houston making a run. You also see Harden directing traffic during ISO plays but usually end up James making spectacular play or teammates chucking up bricks in the last second. Therefore I think Lin is a better leader. I don't get why a leader has to be your best scorer. If people think Harden is a leader in action by setting up examples for teammates, what about do the same on the other end. Stop ****ing ball watching and loose your god damn man. I especially hated it when Harden was getting in position for rebounding and left his guy a wide open shot. That's our 4 and 5's responsibility, not yours James.
     
  16. Jontro

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    I voted for Brooks because he has such few votes.
     
  17. raskol

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    The GM, coach, and a number of players have called Lin a leader as well. But you dismiss that, right? And it's funny cuz everyone's stupid but you, right?
     
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    Leader = Harden. Lin, cparsons, asik could lead 2.
     
  19. WSWhippets

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    i'm not saying it's not harden, but all i know is if you insist the leader of the team must be its highest scorer or best player, then you're an idiot.
     
  20. wapz

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    lol someone doctored the poll to make harden the fan voted leader.

    previously it was lin who had 60-70% of the vote

    just saying
     

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