people here have a point. She wouldn't be in that position if she didn't pass out from drinking too much. this is like a drunk driver getting hit by another drunk driver. It's like, sure, the other person was driving in the wrong lane, but if the girl was alert, she would have been able to see the car coming and swerve, just like all the other sober cars in her lane that got out of the way quickly.
I'm never drunk so good luck with that. I rarely drink but when I do I know my drinking limits If I ever got robbed while drunk, then I would place some blame on myself. If anything bad ever happens to be while drunk I'll place some blame on myself. But then again I'm more responsible than you and plenty of others in this thread.
Oh I'm sorry did I say it was her fault? My bad. Wait, no I didn't. If I left my valuables on my front lawn, which isn't illegal, and they get stolen, am I to blame? Or did my choice to leave them on thr front lawn lead to the fact they were stolen.
Right right, it's not the rapist's fault! The girl should have been sober, alert, in top physical shape, trained in self defense and carrying weapons! What kind of stupid misogynistic logic is this? Oh wait I already answered my own question, misogynistic logic it is.
That's all that has been spewing from many in this thread. It shouldn't matter the situation the victim has been put in or put themselves in, this is something that should not occur. I am just failing to understand people putting the victim at fault in this situation.
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This. If the girl were to just stay in her room all day and never leave the safety and comfort of her house this would have never happened to her. If she would have put on a chastity belt none of this would've happened.
this is not misogynistic, my example would be the same whether it was a guy getting raped by a woman in the same circumstances.
Look, I don't think anyone is saying it's ok for a 16 year old girl to get wasted, pass out and have no memory of the night before. That's obviously not a good thing. Without knowing her history it's impossible to say whether she has a drinking problem and needs help or whether she made a stupid decision as a teenager at a party. REGARDLESS of all of that, that she messed up by getting wasting is irrelevant to whether or not it was wrong to rape her.
Thank you for an excellent post. They are two separate issues. A drunk person is not *less* of a real person, to where it's *less* of a rape to rape her. And that is exactly what a bunch of posts in this (sad) thread seem to imply. The thread, and I'm sorry to write this, kind of shows why the boys did what they did so easily, without stopping to think they were crossing a big line. Yes, a drunk person is more likely to end up in a bad situation. (A person without legs is also easier to rob.) No person would dispute that. But circumstance does not make criminals less criminal. The trial was not about a young woman's judgment. It was a criminal trial -- not a morality trial. If we had trials for people's judgment in America... well, let's just say lawyers would high-five until their palms bled.
Seems to me that no matter what she did or how drunk she was, if you're a MAN or, you know, a decent human being -- and you see a chick passed out drunk beyond knowing where she is or what she's doing, you take her home and make sure she's safe and can sleep it off instead of you, you know, sticking your fingers in her cooch and filming it. But then again, I'M CRAZY.
