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James Anderson > Francisco Garcia

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ScolaIsBallin, Mar 14, 2013.

  1. HadToDoItCF

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    So you just made a completely hypothetical situation and the conclusion to it to support your point? I bet you win that argument against yourself in fantasy land every time. If I'm reading this correctly: Garcia makes stupid turnovers all the time, gets the game completely out of whack by being a spacing shooting guard who doesn't ball handle or initiate the offense, and only calls out people when they screw up huh?

    Carlos' and Garcia's minutes don't really overlap, and the question here is James or Francisco, not Francisco vs. Carlos (which I think everyone would say Carlos). Delfino even said in an interview recently that he prefers to be a quiet leader. He said himself that he does not strive to provide vocal leadership.

    My whole point is that what you think about these players has nothing to do with why they are on the court. He's not on the court to make ESPN's top 10 countdown. He's there to give his skillset to the team (mainly spot shooting and stable defense) and coach the guys on the floor. If you have questions about this, go to McHale's interview before the first Dallas game where he is gloating over Francisco's ability to play Shawn Marion on scout team and how he really helped Dmo learn on defense.
     
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  2. LivinLikeLarry

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    You just completely went away from your first point which said he is there because he is a veteran and gives vocal leadership, and now you are saying he is out there for his skillset to the team.

    What I'm saying is his skillset isn't as good as Anderson's, and he is older and past his prime while Anderson is young and full of potential.

    Anderson is not a guy who is going to go out and give you plays on the top 10 countdown either, I don't know why you think the only reason I want Anderson out there rather than Garcia is because of his flashiness.
     
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  3. HadToDoItCF

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    Read the second part of that exact sentence about skillset... "and coach the guys on the floor". So yeah, he does have a skillset (everyone in the NBA does) and a part of that is leadership.

    I've never once stated anything regarding James Andersen's game, which I actually think could help the team at some point. What you are doing is arguing that you think James should be out there because of his tangible basketball skills. What I'm saying is that the coaches are going with Francisco to provide intangibles.

    I don't know how people don't get this, but it is a real thing in sports. Having a guy out there who gets you organized is huge. Kevin Love said that having Brian Cardinal on the court with him his rookie year was huge because The Janitor (best nickname ever) would literally point him where to go when he was lost. He would call out his defensive assignment for him and make sure he was looking out for his mistakes. And on dead balls, he would go over and talk him through those mistakes, instead of making the coaches do all of that constantly and having the message be lost.

    On every team I've ever been on, when the coach is hard and demanding on people all the time, it is demoralizing. When another player is hard and demanding, you want to perform better for your teammate and buddy.

    When you don't call out a backcourt screen and your guard gets lit up by the other team's big guy, and your coach starts yelling at you about talking on defense and whatever else, the message is hard to find through the emotions of being screamed at. When you don't call out a backcourt screen and your guard comes over and says "dude, wtf? help me out back there for christ's sake and talk on defense," you better believe I felt bad about not doing my job and diligently called out everything for my teammate from then on.

    Teammates all point their guns in the same direction, and it behooves a team to police themselves as opposed to having daddy come in and lay his foot down. Francisco provides some of this for us, and it is needed on this team. We are children in a league of men, allow some of the men to teach the children.
     
  4. LivinLikeLarry

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    Wow those were some compelling points...

    I will say this: The Garcia and Brian Cardinal situations are a little different, because Brian Cardinal had a whole offseason and season with Kevin Love so Cardinal was naturally more knowledgable and could give good help. Garcia is a guy who just came in after a mid season trade whom everybody assumed was just a throw in. Its not like he is a veteran of this team, knows all the plays inside and out and can knit pick every little thing. He must REALLY be a vocal leader if he is getting time ahead of Anderson.

    Also, and I'm not sure about this, Garcia never talks over missed with other players. He literally just cheers them on and compliments the good things they do from what I've seen, but hey thats just my observation, it might be wrong. Its nice debating with a knowledgable person sometimes.
     
  5. Easy

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    So we lost a Son of Patter and got a Son of Robin. Now people are moaning about the Son of Ander when we should be focused on Sons of Par?
     
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    Aaron Brooks > Garcia & Anderson. Ill say let AB play that role plus he is a good 3 point shooter so why not?
     
  7. Z-Ro&Trae

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    Francisco Garcia was a scoring threat in college. I actually remember watching him back in the day.
     
  8. dxdx

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    This.
     
  9. Morlock O

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    I think they are trying out garcia, seeing what he can offer as they need to decide if they will offer him a longer contract or waive him in the off season.
     
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    Yes! He is a lot better in the minutes he gets. And younger!!
     
  11. RollingWave

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    Probably because McHale likes having some veteran stability out there especially on the second unit. its hard to blame him given all sorts of random silly things the reserves sometimes do.

    In terms of basketball skills it's hard to say, neither have much of an sample with the rockets to make serious judgement. (though Anderson's numbers in limited play is actually exceptionally good.)

    I'm not surprised to see McHale play Garcia, but I am kinda surprised that Anderson havn't gotten any runs, regardless, (you could like say.. don't play Harden 40min +, or a little less Delfino here and there also etc.. it shouldn't be that hard to scrap 2-5 min more for him even if you want to play Garcia.)
     
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  12. Naija Texan

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    Garcia has the coach's respect and a particular body type... that all you need for playing time with this staff.

    He's Delfino 2.0 with worst ball handling ability and won't rebound.
     
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  13. Crashlanded19

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    Why does Garcia get PT over James Anderson?

    I know James Anderson isn't great...but so far he's a better shooter...definitely a better defender...so can someone explain to me why is this guy getting playing time?...its frustrating to have a guy out there that doesn't contribute at all...
     
  14. LivinLikeLarry

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    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=235458

    Discussed in length already, but I still don't like Garcia's play. Honestly I just don't see the leadership people are talking about. Couple that with poor play and I just can't figure out why we're not seeing Anderson/Brooks.
     
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    the coach desperately wants to keep his job for next season and plays vets accordingly instead of developing players.
     
  16. Crashlanded19

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    lock this thread for me please
     
  17. daspydamayn

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    mchale has an age fetish so thats why garcia gets minutes
     
  18. cyclorider

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    ... because the trade was essentially Patrick and Toney for T-Rob and Francisco.

    Morey has to justify giving up Toney, a rotation player, by showing that Francisco can also be a rotation player.

    It's dumb thinking, I know. The game should be about winning, but Morey's trade sucked and he's trying to justify it.
     
  19. roxxy

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    Anderson should be playing.
     
  20. Naija Texan

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    But Anderson really isn't that much of a project, the truth is Garcia falls in the mold of player the coaches think can play the SG, SF or PF position based on his body type along with being able to shoot the 3 ball they like for spacing.

    He is in there to give Parsons a rest because this team loves small ball and likes to play it more.
     

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