Are you butt hurt or something? Is one of the God-believing posters in this thread your best mate? I asked a legit question in D&D, as expected some religious people came in and gave their inputs --- stupid or not, at least this has been a rather civil conversation, it's still massively better than your insults. Just listen to yourself, you insulted me simply because you didn't like what I said. Now go away if you don't have anything to add.
I believe this is the thread that's gonna solve this whole "God vs. No God" thing once and for all!! TWENTY-SEVEN STAR THREAD!!!
But why do we have to respect anyone's religious belief, especially when they have failed over and over again to justify it? Respect is not your supermarket free yoghurt sample, respect is earned not given.
Actually its quite ironic that atheist look to science to disprove the existence of God, but when it comes time to prove the contrary, they have no need for science...they just want us to accept their facts...
Incorrect. Scientists use scientific methods to verify religious claims does not mean they are trying to disprove the existence of GOD --- because there's nothing to disprove, you can not disprove anything that hasnt even been proved yet.
The debate is a pointless one. There will always be people who believe in no deity, and those who do. There will always be separation among those who do as to which one is the "true" deity. The fact of the matter is that it will never be proven one way or another definitively unless something like the Rapture were to occur. Saying that Christians are over-zealous and in your face is ignorant. Not all are, yet many of course are. Saying Atheists are smug and self-rightous and in your face is ignorant as well. Not all are, and still many are. Both sides have their most vocal proponents who make their groups look bad as a whole. These people should not represent the average person from their group. To create a debate over an internet forum, expecting to make someone see your reasoning over their own and change their entire belief system is an absurd idea. No matter what side you are on. This is a debate that will rage on until the end of time, as I said not just the religious vs the non, but among the religous vs the religous as well.
You either have faith in an existence, faith in a non existence, or concede that ultimately our ignorance of the great unknown doesn’t allow you to establish a stance. Any way you put it, it’s a stance based off of faith and or ignorance. No one can point to concrete evidence. No one can PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt that what they believe is indeed fact. Accept this. Respect others and their beliefs. Regardless of what your personal belief is, you used the same human characteristics, faith and/or ignorance, to come to that conclusion. In the end, someone will have been right the whole time; but NO ONE will be around to say: “I told you so.”
I think that some of these guys are saying that's not necessarily correct because you don't have to have 'faith' in a non existence. You don't have to disprove something that's never been proven. So they are not 'equal'. It would only be seen that way if you approach the idea of 'non belief' as a person of faith, because then you are actively trying to disprove something you believe to be truth. In any case, I disagree that the 'just respect each other's beliefs' is completely plausible. In a world where, for example, very real debates of bringing faith into classrooms or textbooks that influence children worldwide or where one of the two dominant political parties tries to identify itself as more a party of 'christian ideals' than the other, you can't escape it. Even if you do want to just 'let people believe what they want to believe'. In those instances, someone else's belief or faith still impacts your life.
Think about it, is Bald a hair color? Not collecting stamp a hobby? You, and many posters here are confused with some basic terms, I will have to make ths clear to all of you. Lack of Belief is NOT the same as believe there is no GOD. Stop making the same stupid mistake over and over again.
You don't. I was responding specifically to a person who said he respected folks' religious beliefs, yet called the Bible a 'fairytale' book.
This whole thread has been mostly trash. I feel like its only purpose was to actually insult religion. The posts in general from the "atheists" have been insulting. To answer the actual question posed: You have to prove there is no God because that is the only way to prove atheism is correct.
Thank you for your input. But you are wrong, deadly wrong. Atheism is the lack of belief, its a stance and principle towards religious claims, being an atheistmeans you reject the claims that have insufficient or ZERO evidences. It is impossible to say atheism is correct/incorrect/right/wrong/accurate/inaccurate becuase it does not make positive claims --- It is the default position as soon as come out of the womb. No, I do not have to disprove your God because I did not make any claims about your God's existence, however, the burden of proof is on whoever claim that they know there's a GOD/GODS.
