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McHale Interview: If you are doing a horse**** job...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Mar 11, 2013.

  1. Hippieloser

    Hippieloser Member

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    News flash: Kevin McHale hates losing. Luckily, we have a team without a single prima donna on it, and so this interview is a complete non-issue. As it should be.
     
  2. Commodore

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    I tend to agree with others here that McHale's indignance is a defense mechanism to deflect from his own flaws.

    There's a fine line between honesty and throwing your players under the bus.

    Usually the coach includes themselves ("I need to do better") to avoid this issue.
     
  3. Verbal Christ

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    if mchale hates losing so much maybe he shouldnt contribute to the problem as often as he does, and then duck the tough questions that come from those situations, only to get uber critical when the team plays bad. call a few plays every once in a while, letting the loony's run the asylum will only get you so far. what is the system here?

    rockets could do better.
     
  4. figment

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    He wasn't even mentioned in particular until you bust out with this?
     
  5. sirbaihu

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    Love McHale's directness. If you fault him for the losses, credit him for the wins.
     
  6. andersongo

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    McSuccess just threw Lin, Beverly and a few others under the bus. I would say, par for the course. Arise, COTY candidate McSuccess, for Thou take no horse**** from scrub players!
     
  7. Yang_Wenli

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    Sure McHale should take the fall too with his bad rotation and limited set plays, but it's not like the stuff he said regarding the rebounds was made up or exaggerated. The players should have known what to do in those situation, and should put more effort into it.

    Coaches call the play, but it's the players that execute it. I really hate the fact that McHale gets no credit for the win but is blamed for the lack of effort/energy when our guys play like a scapegoat for every wrongs in our team.
     
  8. dmoneybangbang

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    Geeze another armchair psychologist.

    How was he throwing his players under the bus? Is it not their job to go out there and play? Do you and you folks think McHale and the rest of the coaching staff are preaching no rebounds and no defense or what?

    Bottomline, the players play inconsistent and inexperienced. They made sloppy turnovers (Harden and Lin), made mental lapses defensively, and lost the defensive battle against a Gortat-less Suns. It's all on the players. Losing to sub par .500 teams is something a young and inexperienced teams do.
     
  9. Little General

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    Because he doesn't have many set plays is why i give more credit to the players. They do the hard work and almost improvise the plays themselves because they don't have set plays.
     
  10. txppratt

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    mchale is legit.
     
  11. meh

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    It's interesting that fans tend to view 20+ yr old professional players making 7 figure salaries like they 10 yr old kids. Things like defensive rebounding are part of the job description. Do you really need the coach to say, "sorry, I need to teach them how to rebound better"? Isn't this like saying a manager at a computer company say, "I need to teach my programmers how to write codes properly"? Aren't players who play in the NBA suppose to know how to rebound? How to pass the ball properly?

    What's definitely on McHale is that our players aren't doing their jobs properly. That is McHale's job, to get his team to not be sloppy with the ball, to hustle back on transition, to rebound when opponents miss. But how should he do that? Obviously by holding players accountable when they f*** up. And if our players keep f***ing up over and over and over, then McHale should be fired. But there's nothing wrong with holding professional players accountable for them doing stupid ass things. Which is what our players have been doing.

    FWIW, JVG talks crap about his players all the time, blasting them for not playing defense or not rebounding. It's why he keeps playing his old Knicks vets over youngsters. This is what coaches do. And it's when they fail to get the message across that they get fired. But they shouldn't be held accountable for trying to get the message across.
     
  12. andersongo

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    If McSuccess values defensive rebounding so much, then why does he often go with his usual BS small line-ups? With the Mav's loss and Asik sitting in the 4th still fresh in everyone's memory, McSuccess comes out with this tripe? I mean, really? And who is saying that the players should not be blamed also? There are lots and lots of discussions deploring Harden's D, Lin's and Parson's stupid TOs, our PFs rebounding, etc. But, when it comes to McSuccess, it's usually the "team is young, inexperienced and not talented enough to run plays" and "coach is making them overachieve" BS.
     
  13. MFBTY

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    Why credit Mchale with the wins when Sampson and Parsons themselves said the team doesn't run any plays. That means the players are winning the games themselves...Mchale isn't doing **** but scream "MOVE THE BALL" and criticize the players' flaws when the team lose.
     
  14. RonJeremy

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    Geeze... I didn't know you need to be a psychologist to observe a simple behavior. His lack of admission to his coaching mistakes is attributed to his ego. As long as McHale thinks he is perfect, he will never make the necessary change in his coaching. You have to know what you are doing wrong before you can correct it. From his interviews, he seems to do no wrong.
     
  15. Shroopy2

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    Yeah no kidding. I wish we had Rick Adelman still not McHale, but at what point do you get to say "I'm the coach, I see YOU are not doing what YOU'RE supposed to do"?

    McHale's old school mentoring influence Red Aeurbach said coaching is more a dictatorship not a partnership. Sometmes it IS them and NOT you and you don't have to frame a "we" in there.
     
  16. Verbal Christ

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    whats so hard about saying "James go win us the game"? If anyone should get the credit for the wins it should be the players, McHale hasnt pulled out a game with his 'experience' or ability to make teams react to his style, many times just saying 'we had to match up with them' ... that aggravates me. Make them adjust to you, thats what winners do. At least Sleepy Adelman would wake up and coach every once in a while, all Lurch does is pace and yell at the players to "Run"!! This team is making him look good, not vice versa.
     
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    Awesome, young guys need discipline. One too many stupid mistakes, lapses in judgment.
     
  18. haydenfisher342

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    I like mchale. I usta not, but now i do. Alot of ball watchers on the team.
     
  19. Mr. Clutch

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    McHall of Famer.

    You don't get there without getting pissed about losing.

    Period. End of story.
     
  20. Little General

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    I get that, but don't you think that he should also be responsible for some of the losses?
     

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