I didn't say they would be happy or unhappy, I said they would be willing to be the secondary ball handler, because they are professionals and fall in line with what the coaches tell them to do. If you are to make the assertion that PGs would be unhappy being the secondary ball handler, you have to prove it. Otherwise, you are just making things up.
James is an elite scorer beyond a doubt. Elite playmaker no. To get into that category he has to cut down on turnovers and pass the ball to others more often when they are open and he is not. Against GS we had a 2 on 1 fast break where James got picked up by the defender and didn't pass to his wide-open teammate. Elite playmakers don't do that. He missed the layup also.
Dude you're not making sense. It's my OPINION that most elite PG's would not be happy having James be the primary ball handler. I don't have to prove my opinion. Just as it's you're opinion that they would be professionals and fall in line. By the way how'd it work out with McHale and Lowry?
How am I not making sense? I made it clear as day that unless you are an elite PG you are not going to get the ball more than an elite SG/SF. You made the claim that no PGs would be willing to pass the ball to Harden and let him run the offense, which I said to either back it up or otherwise you are just spewing. What does McHale and Lowry have to do with any of this?
Exactly. It depends which PG is teamed up with Harden. Lin isn't an elite PG. If he can get his TOs down and his shooting % up then you would see a rise in his usage rate between Harden and him. Same way Harden would defer if someone like CP3 joined the Rockets. Or if Holiday joined Harden then they would probably share the ball 50/50.
If you keep misquoting me and exaggerating I'm done talking to you. I never said that NO PG would be willing to let Harden run the offense. First of all I said Lin would. You're the one who is spewing if you keep twisting my words. At any rate the important thing is that the Rockets win. Lin is not an elite point guard but the stats many Clutch Fans have brought up is that the more Lin handles he ball, the more we win. Harden is an elite scorer and he needs to handle the ball LESS for us to win MORE.
Was Lowry "professional" in his dealings with McHale? Was Carmelo "professional" in his dealings with D'Antoni? Was Dwight "professional" in Orlando? Don't assume players will just "fall in line"
I didn't misquote anything, and I didn't exaggerate. You are the one who claimed this team is "f**ked" if J Lin was traded. In that same post, you implied no other PGs other than Lin would be willing to be a secondary ball handler. By all means do stop talking to me. I don't think I'll get through to the person who claims this team will go .500 without Harden but with Lin running the offense.
I did state later that only washed up or mediocre PG's would be happy with it. Actually EVERY PG IN THE LEAGUE has a better assist/turnover ratio than Harden. Why then should Harden be the primary ballhandler? Do you like to lose?
Harden has been the primary ball handler so far this season, and we are above .500, so no we aren't losing. I'm not going to bother anymore, keep thinking that this team is .500 without Harden.
Funny how that over the last couple of months, Lin has been making shots and Harden's A/T ratio has gone up. Harden's A/T ratio has been Lin's career average the last two months or so. Very odd...
But our record would be better if he wasn't the primary ball handler. He just had 8 turnovers which led to our loss. So we'd at least be 1 game better.
Harden's a natural play maker but a lot of his turnovers are from his ISO before he even penetrates. This is on McHale not Harden. I do agree with you when Lin handles the ball, the offense is more smooth. Let's say Harden is 10 with ball and 10 off the ball. Lin's 8 with ball in his hands but only 2 off the ball. The best combination is let Lin handles the ball and creates for Harden. I don't know why coaches don't see it. ISO is the worst if you're not trying to control clock.
The logic I think McHale uses is the probability of something actually happening when either Harden/Lin make a play. Harden obviously can get his own shot off alot better than Lin can. Lin is arguably a better passer than Harden is, but the gap isn't too far between them. Breaking it down in the most simplest form disregarding other plays called: What you get with Harden handling the ball is either a good pass that leads to a bucket, a turnover, or an ISO for Harden. What you get with Lin is either a good pass, turnover, or he picks up his dribble and is surrounded or doubled so he has to pass it out which could result in a turnover or alot of time wasted on the clock resulting in a bad shot. In terms of getting a shot off I would go with Harden most of the time. But we all know that that will become predictable which is why we have other set plays. But until Lin can bring his TOs down, this is what usually happens in our offense.
Being a Lin fan I don't expect people to agree with a lot of my opinions. What about Calvin Murphy though? Would anybody deny he is totally a Rockets fan? He said that the Rockets need the ball in Jeremy's hands more and Harden should concentrate on finishing. That's from a Hall of Fame point guard and a die hard Rockets fan. A lot of clutch fans have also pointed this out with facts to back them up. Why the stubborness on insisting Harden should be the primary ball handler? During our 7 game losing streak Lin was hardly ever the primary ball handler and we started to win when he and Harden shared the ball more equally. Harden can still be the primary ball handler but Lin needs to be more involved.
Harden's turnovers are fouls that don't get called 75% of the time as he is driving to the hoop. Jeremy Lin keeps his turnovers down by dribbling the shot clock down to 3 seconds, creating nothing, then dumping it to a shooter who has to take an off balance highly contested jumper. Its not even close to comparable.
