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[Psychology Today] One of these is not like the other

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Honey Bear, Mar 11, 2013.

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  1. Honey Bear

    Honey Bear Member

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    I'm still unclear on how they were able to objectively measure looks based on subjective opinions of others.
    But I do agree on the chart that shows how the races subjectively view themselves.
     
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    it's about the average perception of attractiveness.
     
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    caucasian???? :confused:
     
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    This is a discredited article from 2011 which Psychology Today deleted the day it was posted on their website.

    Your link is also from 2011, so I'm curious how you stumbled on it.
     
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    It was on his racism listserv.
     
  7. Honey Bear

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    Whether you like it or not, you form a snap judgment of everyone you meet. Attraction, quite frankly, stems from our deepest primal urges. It's not as subjective as the media makes it out to be - that's a defense mechanism for "settling" and a life philosophy for the sexually inadequate. The law of the jungle rules us all.

    Men are attracted to fertility and feminism that manifests itself in different ways. Looking at the top 15% of various races - asian girls excel in skin and hair, white girls excel in facial symmetry, hispanic girls excel with striking eyes, and black women tend to be the curviest. However, their overproduction of testosterone negates any feminine, supportive behavior which can push away men of their own race and cause them to overinflate their value to compensate for the lack of a stable man in their life. It has nothing to do with skin color.

    On the flipside, the higher testosterone levels do give black men an attractive edge on a primal level.

    In general, hyper feminism has been the single greatest cause of decay in good ol "American values".
     
  8. Honey Bear

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    The author, Satoshi Kanazawa, is somewhat of a mentor and has some pretty interesting things say. He's also done studies on Asian males being unattractive and sexually inadequate despite being Asian himself.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17032488?dopt=AbstractPlus

    He's done various studies on the subject (grounded in common belief) and is one of the few academics who can sustain my attention.

    Obviously psychology today had to pull it as they rely on sponsorships and ad money so certain things can't be said, regardless of whether they are true or not. Anyone who's been in the field for a while knows the vast amounts of politics related to scientific distributions.
     
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    Also from Satoshi Kanazawa:

    Are you also a big fan of Ann Coulter, Ronny?
     
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    I think black women are in general the hottest and sexiest female group on earth.
     
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    What is the POINT of this nonsense, besides RACISM?!

    "Objectively" the ugliest?!

    :mad:
     
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    Beauty is on the inside, not the outside
     
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    Here's a subsequent article posted on Psychology Today discussing the Add Health dataset used by Kanazawa and the merits of his conclusions:

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...ess-attractive-our-independent-analysis-the-a

    In the author's technical report on the data set, he writes in his conclusion:

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    Kanazawa claimed to have found that “black women are […] far less attractive than white, Asian, and Native American women” and that “In each wave, black women are significantly less physically attractive than women of other races”. He also claimed that the ratings were “objective”. Neither of these claims follow from the current re-analyses of the ratings of female participants in the Add health study, because (1) there was substantial variation in ratings made by different interviewers, (2) the ratings across the waves show very little convergence, (3) the ratings in which Kanazawa did find clear differences (on the basis of an analysis that did not take into account dependencies due to raters) were made when Add Health participants were not adults but teenagers, (4) the ratings that were done of attractiveness of adult women did not show overall systematic differences between the four racial groups. [/rquoter]

    For Wave IV when the subjects were all adults:

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    What was the racial breakdown of the people who rated who they think is more attractive? On average I'm sure that most whites are attracted to other whites, blacks to blacks, etc...
     
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    The hyper feminist and high testosterone behavior has caused black celebrities to make derogatory comments towards dark skinned women in various music videos, film and at parties.
    http://theurbandaily.com/1114305/lil-wayne-disrespects-woman/

    One might argue it's a result of low socio economic conditions but poor or rich the genetic structuring of subject A will prevent her from ever devolving into subejct B.

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    SUBJECT B
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    My personal experience shows intelligent males have a propensity to forego feminist ideals, combative attitudes and women with strong career drives (high testosterone characters) for more subservient women in menial work positions... as their priorities lie in homemaking, mothering, art, fashion, etc.
     
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    In this study by lipstickalley, researchers found aggressive behavior in females a result of physical and emotional abuse growing up... giving off a vibe of "masculinity" later in life. It is suggested this is more prevalent in certain races. I think that's a stretch when the basic principles of evolutionary psychology are right in front of you.

    http://www.lipstickalley.com/f373/why-black-women-masculine-444095/
     
  19. SuperBeeKay

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    aint nobody got time fo dat
     
  20. Honey Bear

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    Adults aren't shallow enough to give a study like this accuracy. It's been shown they tend to prioritize the exceptional standouts as opposed to the collective as a result of less social interaction outside their comfort zone. Completely out of context.
     

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