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Missing U: Patrick Patterson

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Feb 23, 2013.

  1. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

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    True.... The Dread was good for a few rebounds, couple of Js and some cheese factory food,

    Keep smokin dat JChill
     
  2. rolyat93

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    Any chance they can get to circlejerk Pattie they take.
     
  3. tehG l i d e

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    This trade just might do us in. I voted against this trade when it was first made. These guys has excellent chemistry and spacing on the court but now it's gone. They look like like crap lately.
     
  4. tehG l i d e

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    It's what our offense is missing. We were already shooting the least % from midrange in NBA history and we give up our only midrange threat. We become 1-dimensional and predictable, easy to guard when all they have to worry about is inside the semi-circle or from 3. Hell 2Pat was actually one of our best 3 pt shooters percentage-wise this season as well. He was good at being a stretch 4. We optimize him as a stretch 4 and of course he's not going to grab rebounds. We already have Asik for that. We're already 9th in the league in rebounds. We NEED spacing and chemistry for this offense to be lethal.
     
  5. Carl Herrera

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    Take a look here:

    http://www.hoopdata.com/shotstats.aspx?team=%&type=pm&posi=%&yr=2013&gp2=30&mins=20


    Patterson is not only HOU's best shooter from 16-23 feet, his 49% from that distance is also among the top 10 in the NBA (among guys who played at least 20 mpg for at least 30 games).

    Moreover, his shooting % from all distances-- at rim, 3-9 feet, 10-15 feet, 16-23 feet, and 3 pointers-- are above league average (and by a significant margin for everything but the 3s). In particular, his 75% shooting at the rim is 13th in the league (among those fitting the minutes criteria above) and the best on the team.

    Pat doesn't create many of his own shots, but he has really been an extremelt efficient catch and finish option from almost all distances. HOU has other guys to get 3s and layups, but no one like Pat as a great midrange outlet for those moments when opponents got the "homerun plays" (drives to the rim and open 3s) covered.

    Pat also barely ever turns the ball over, which has been a weakness for the rest of the team.
     
  6. dmoneybangbang

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    Holy poopcakes batman! The Rockets traded their best mid range shooter? Wow the Rockets must truly not give a crap about the playoffs and only care about being contenders.

    Face it, the Rockets don't care about the playoffs. PPat was never going to be here next year. Now you say until you believe it.
     
  7. dmoneybangbang

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    It's like the Rockets, now that the have a budding a superstar, don't care about trivial things like getting stomped in the first round of the playoffs. I mean, they'll take it, but it's like they care more about the big picture of making moves that will make them contenders....
     
  8. Habs

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    Rockets Management heavily believes that midrange shots are low % and a waste of time. It's not a shot they want to take.

    On the other hand, it's a shot that both Marc Gasol and Tim Duncan take a lot. The latter, having won 4 Championships (and never having worse than a 50 game season) doing it.

    Duncan's mid-range shot is actually what allows Parker to drive and a lot of Manu's cut. Duncan's absolutely money from the low-block (more so than someone like Garnett), but his ability to hit from the top of the key is why that team is so ridiculous hard to guard.

    You pair Shaq with Tony Parker, and Parker's career would look drastically different. Another reason why I consider Tim Duncan to be the best player of his generation and the greatest NBA player currently playing.

    He truly makes others around him better. Super easy to build around. Is there any starter. star, or superstar in the league that wouldn't look better next to Duncan? Is there any other NBA superstar you could say that about?
     
  9. Habs

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcZLLZU0OzI

    Most NBA Centers and Powerforwards that can hit this shot that well, tend to fall in love with it. Even the greats with good post-moves (Kevin Garnett, Chris Webber) tend to shoot it too much. But, that shot at the right time, is absolutely crucial to the Spurs success.
     
  10. dmoneybangbang

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    It is statistically a bad shot. However, if you got a Tim Duncan then you are able to spread the floor with that elbow or midrange 2. The Rockets also build around their personnel, which just so happen to be a team of penetrators and 3 pt shooters.
     
  11. teebone21

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    GM that's obsessed with trading isn't a good thing
     
  12. peter2012

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    I agree. T-rob put lots of hard work, but I really dont see much result.
     
  13. PuzzledFan

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    You can't build a contender by building a losing program.
     
  14. dmoneybangbang

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    LOLZ. Sure you can. We will have a good deal of cap room and a promising young core that includes Harden, Parsons, and Asik next season whether we make the playoffs or not.
     
  15. dmoneybangbang

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    LOLZ. So we got Harden how?
     
  16. Carl Herrera

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    Not by trading for lotto busts.
     
  17. dmoneybangbang

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    So a player not even finished with their rookie season is a bust. LOLZ. Come on dude, you're smarter than that.
     
  18. LosPollosHermanos

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    Great move but he has had a big enough window to land a franchise player. It doesn't matter if you have only gotten the 14th pick, if thats the case you do what other do...tank in full mode. Not the best advice but if you are at the point where you have no future, you have to try your luck in the draft. He has gathered assets for a very long time and turned them into better players and pushed the team further...but further from suckage and only into just above mediocrity. I seriously believe he lacks the basketball knowledge in assembling a championship roster. Mchale has done the most he can, but what kind of person lets Adelman go and signs Mchale?

    Morey will always continue to succeed at getting the best value for his players as a GM, but continual stock market moves like that don't usually build a championship team.
     
  19. Carl Herrera

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    Who is the last former lotto pick who did not succeed elsewhere and turned things around after being acquired by the Rockets?

    Not this guy:

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  20. dmoneybangbang

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    I know it's hard for people to understand or appreciate the amount of luck and preparedness it takes to land a true franchise player. I also know it's hard for people to appreciate that he did it without tanking. I mean, we Rockets fan had to sit through years of mediocrity with no superstar in hand barely missing the playoffs.... instead of years of tanking. It's tough I know.... :rolleyes:

    Based on what? We have Harden now. We have cap room. We have a young promising core. We have been in the media a lot. There are no guarantees in professional sports, but I like the state of the Rockets now and the future.
     

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