ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Mavericks 3/6/2013

Go ahead and say that the PG with 0 pts last night should start over the guy who not only outplayed Westbrook a few weeks ago, but also led the Rockets in their destruction of Mavs just 4 days ago.

 

You built your own straw man, and keep pounding on it then claim victory in front of the mirror?

Me (whatever name you want to throw at me):

1. Lin could have scored at least 2 points in 15 minutes.
2. 9-17 in the 4th quarter for Mavs wasn't evidence that wish of defensive stops has granted.
3. Asik is a proven defensive corner stone of the Rockets (see Morey's comment), and he is always much more active at offense when guards involve him more.

In conclusion, it was dead wrong in offense, and there was no evidence it was right in perimeter defense, and it was dead wrong in interior defense.

But somehow, coach has made the "right" decision. Thanks for the laugh.

 

I'm pretty sure you quoted the wrong post? I was just poking fun at some of the LOFs' reasoning. That all I did, nothing more nothing less. I didn't say anything about the substitutions, nothing about Asik, nothing about anything in your post.

 

I think a solution would be to have Lin start the quarter and McHale could sit him when he's off his game, lol. At least he'll have a chance of playing in the 4th quarter, lol.

 

Again the point in my post is never addressed but you attack me when I have not said any of those things in my post.


Please.

 

My disbelief is mainly reserved for those who think that Beverley should be a starter.

I think Lin's good, but he, like Asik, is not some irreplaceable and unquestionable All-Star player. I do think that McHale made a bad decision, but it's not the most unfathomable one in the world.

Remember that in the beginning of the season, McHale used Douglas to close out games. Didn't mean that Lin's role on the team was diminished or in jeopardy or anything.

 

In all honesty, I wouldn't have before the home-and-home, because there wasnt' any evidence to suggest that we would.

After the first 6 minutes of the 3rd in the previous game, though, I would have fully expected us to win this one if we had a coach other than Paul Westphal, Dwayne Casey, or Kevin McHale. Yeah, that's right, even Keith Smart would have been smart enough to get that one when something is gift-wrapped and handed to him out of the clear blue sky.

I would ask you to excuse me if some of us don't just blindly blame every obvious f*** up that has nothing to do with player inexperience on player inexperience, but frankly I just couldn't care less about 'em canned polite generic excuses.

 

I'm noticing that's really all you do. In essence you contribute about as much as your LOFs--nonsense and drama.

 

The bigger, more prevalent double standard is :
Lin deferring to Harden, zero points, good defense, good distribution = Lin sucks!
Bev deferring to Harden, zero points, good defense, good distribution = Bev was huge!
Are we going to pretend that the Joke thread does not exist?

 

Honestly its the players like Harden / Parson / Lin / Asik bailing out the team. You give this team to an average coach and I bet our position in the playoff secured already.

 

Be fair

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"Lin does not have a reputation for being good to end games"? See the link, see the result yourself.

http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/p...-lin-undrafted

"At the time he was shut down -- presumably for the rest of this season unless there's a longer-than-expected playoff run in the Knicks' future that would give the meniscal tear in his left knee sufficient time to heal -- Lin's PER in fourth quarters was a whopping 33.5. Without trying to get too Hollinger-esque on you, bear in mind that such a reading left Lin behind only the Clippers' Chris Paul (37.2) in the league when this week began … and ahead of the likes of Derrick Rose (32.9), Kyrie Irving (32.2), LeBron James (30.7) and Kevin Durant (29.4)."

 

Alot of credit should go to Marion. He's a forgotten man due to the fact of age and being on non threatening teams as of late, but he proved tonight to still be the elite, lockdown defender he's been in the past.

 

see if you can follow this...

the team is behind. the backup played well and got them within striking range. he sits his starting PG who is a better offensive player than his bench guy, and has a history of big 4th quarters. he plays the bench guys supposedly for his defense - even though he has him guarding mike freakin' james (if he had put beverly on mayo then that's a different story). mike james had two baskets against the starter the whole game up to that point. the offense gets stagnant with everyone trying to create shots for themselves because your starting PG is not in the game, even though there's only one person can really do it and dallas knew exactly where the offensive threat is coming from.

we lose a game that we could've won - and you're defending the coach's decision making???

 

I'm just laughing at people on this forum saying Beverly should be our starter. I lost count on how many games we look lost when Lin on the bench. I Like Beverly and I don't disagree with the minutes he's been playing but to bench our starter in the last 15mins is bonehead. Bev playing late 3rd to mid 4th was alrite....i didn't mind that but the whole 4rd?? Bev to start over LIN? Lin didn't start of the season great but yall need to look at the last couple of month.....his improvement goes on well beyond shooting 3s. What more do you guys want...he's on a incline rather then decline.

 

Good post. voice of reason.

my question is - if bev was in the game supposedly for his defense, why not put him on oj mayo? 'cause harden certainly couldn't guard him worth a lick. and from what i saw, lin limited mike james to 2 baskets up to the point. i'd say that's pretty good D.

 

So you're saying a team's success basically starts and ends with its players since you're giving zero credit to the coaching staff. That's just like saying the Spurs would have the same success even if their coach wasn't Popovich since Duncan, Manu, and Parker would bail them out?

 

At the end of the day, coach made a very unusual decision to give two rookies 15 (Bev) and 17 (TRob) of straight burn over his starting Center and PG in a closely contested game and the team lost.

Lots of randomness happens within a single game, the randomness doesn't have to come from the coach as well.

 

We as Rockets fan can not wait for McHale burn us again and again for next two years. Hope the owner change the coach if we fail in getting into playoff this season. There is no reason to keep him with this bunch of talented young players.

 

I'm honestly completely lost over McHale's decision to leave the bench except for Parsons/Harden last night. It feels like we threw this game away on purpose, but there's no fathomable reason we would want to do that.

 

And honestly, for all those pointing to the team being good despite its youth, I don't think McHale has anything to do with that. Like Spoelstra, like Mike D'Antoni, like Scott Brooks, like Vinny Del Negro, he has negligible positive impact as a coach like the vast majority of coaches in the league. I think Wages of Wins did an article on it once. Smfh at the poster above who compared him to ******* Gregg Popovich.