ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Mavericks 3/6/2013

These appear to be very convincing stats but I do wonder what the source is and I also wonder if the stats are comparable since the GP (games played) are different for the players being compared. For example can we really compare 26 games by Lin against 6 by Beverly. Now I know Lin hasn't finished every game but he couldn't have just played in the last five minutes of 26 games.
I am not questioning the authenticity of these stats but can you clarify the source and how/when it was compiled, because it obviously doesn't include the season to date of 62 games played.

BTW I am a big Lin fan and I also believe that Mchale has made some very questionable decisions with regards to Lin's rotation and minutes.

 

Poor Jlin, I think if this treatment continues, I rather see Jlin playing on other teams. Mchale just doesn't trust him. That's a hard truth but we need to accept it. Jlin fan here!

 

I think it's probably right. 62 games played, maybe 25 were blowouts one way or another where lin doesn't play, so that's 37 games, then there are at least 4-5 games toney douglas closed out and the 6 that beverley played so there is the 26.

 

Do you guys remember the 2nd game against the Mavericks, when Lin carried the team in the 4th quarter that the Rockets had a chance to win in the final minutes? Remember what happened after the Rockets went from Lin/Harden PnR to Harden ISO?

It's the same pattern regardless who the PG was in the final minutes of a close game. Beverly played great tonight in the 4th quarter as he was crucial in Rockets' surge. However, when they came out of a time out with ~6 minutes to go, it became the all too familiar Harden ISO.

 

I think those stats were compiled based on the last 5 games played. Don't take my word for it but I read something in one of the earlier pages as I was skimming thru.

 

I think we need to unite as rockets fans to call for Mchale to get benched in the next game and let Samson act as a head coach...

 

Yeah...the ISO was so obvious. I'm sitting there like "ok Harden going to drive in and try to force the foul...wait maybe he'll drive and pass....ah doubt it"...I was hoping they run something for Parson at the final few possessions. Parson has proven that he can knock down shots at high percentage.

 

You mean Lin fans. and this is the worst idea i've ever heard.

 

It seems like every call that could go either way, the Mavs got!

I can't really say the refs cost us a game, we had twice as many free throws as Dallas. But it was like they got every possible close call!

 

substitution aside, rockets were in position to win
too much ISO and poor defense
predictable offense, Dallas ate it up. Marion locked down
I'm afraid harden might be slowing down with the knee and load to finish the


wait...I think Marion just beat everyone down court for a easy lay up

 

Adelman developed a fetish for Barea-Rubio-Ridnour 3-PG lineup this season with Barea handling the ball and Rubio spotting up. Naturally, hilarity ensued and Adelman stubbornly stuck to it for a while, but to his credit, he actually paid attention to the overall results instead of letting mere 6-point swings serve his confirmation bias and dictate his strategy, and eventually he admitted his mistake and did not go back to it.

McHale, on the other hand, just wants to believe what he feels like believing at any given moment, and in the absence of good grounds for belief, he will be satisfied with bad ones. Overall result trends be damned. Playing the known odds be damned. All it takes is two fumbles, or two makes, or a 6-point swing with Kevin McHale to make him buy into whatever random rationalization he feels like embracing at any given moment. I mean, the dude obviously has a very short attention span and no memory capacity to speak of (all those shots to the head he took as a player must have taken their toll).

Our entire season was going to be over after Morey/McHale had decided to go full Harden two games into the season, which, as it turned out, killed Harden's efficiency almost as badly as other players'. Of course, Harden was still not bad, because he was a star, but as an accident of a gift would show us, he could be so much better still if the team didn't go full Harden.

Our entire season and this whole playoff run had been a gift of an accident from that one Spurs game Harden sat out. We went 12-2 in the following stretch with Lin initiating a large chunk of the offense and Harden absolutely thriving and kicking ass over the stretch (actually one loss punctuated the 12-2 stretch where we were blowing good teams out, it was the TOR game where Asik fumbled two passes early in PnR and we called a timeout just to make the adjustment not to set another screen on Calderon for the next 2.5 quarters, so we were actually 12-3 in the full stretch, but we definitely went full Harden in that TOR loss). Apparently after seeing Harden's efficiency surge sky high there, whoever was calling the shots decided to go full Harden again. Disaster followed and we all remember what happened the next 8 games when we went hardcore full Harden.

We have been riding the coattail of that little gift of an accident stretch this whole time. Without it we stand at 21-27 with basically zero chance of making the playoffs. 19-27 if you take out the first two games at the start of the season before we went full Harden. Truth be told, down this final stretch of 20 games, if we go full Harden for a couple of quarters in most of them, I am not liking our chances.

You can have something very beautiful with a truckload of Harden, but you never go full Harden, man! SMH.

 

If this is the worst idea then give me a good reason why Mchale did stupid things not once but so many times? and you called as Lin fans? so what?Is there a problem on that? Houston hired a PG only to benched him on the 4th quarter? See my friend, Mchale thought of Bev. playing good to justify benching Lin is so effin ridiculous...How about Jlin getting Hot in so many games and still Mchale always find a way to bench him? Is that sounds reasonable to you? I don't see any problem of being a fan of Jlin...and i don't see any problem of hating either, just open your eyes and see what is really going on in this team...Coach is the real problem! end of the story!

 

Total jlin hater. just put him on the ignore, i did.

 

source?

 

Yeah I'm not even attacking other players, I'm emphasizing only that the coach has something to do about those critical loses. With that being sad, I think Mchale deserves to go. This isn't about Jlin or anybody in the team, it just that Mchale already reached half of this season and still experimenting with his bull crap rotations...Bev is a good back up and he showed he can play but to bench a franchise PG like Jlin is so damn ridiculous...if Mchale doesn't trust Lin to handle the ball then better for Morey to release this guy...I don't see Jlin going north with this team...Jlin clouds is Mchale...and that is the truth...

 

no......the worst idea is to bench two of your starters the whole 4th quarter

you think every rockets fans hating on mchale is a LOF? drop your haterade


most people on this board never wanted McHale to be the coach to begin with.

 

Samson could be worse. He seemed like he hates Lin even more

 

D'Mo instead of PPat means no defense

 

My problem is that you put Lin getting minuets and playing BEFORE the team. its ok to be a Lin fan, like my sig says before where the problem comes in is when yall concentrate more on a player, then the Good of the team. You want to fire McHale? it wont happen, he's been praised for the job he has done this season. Hes taken not one of, but THE youngest team in the NBA and turning them into playoff contenders. We have a deep team and its eveyones first season together. can you REALLY blame coach for experimenting giving other players a chance to step up and show their worth? Starting positons dont mean crap in the NBA, that can change any day. If a player starts slacking, And someone else is picking up the slack it shouldnt matter if you're a 10x all star, the people who perform the best and who are helping out the TEAM should be able to play. Lin does not have a reputation for being good to end games, he's had some good plays here and there but as a coach to take out a player when he's forcing turnovers, diving for balls, and playing up front hard defense is silly no matter who you are. Not to mention that Lin and Beverly are not like comparing apples and oranges, If Beverly stays consistant and if he continue to play the way he played tonight he should earn his minutes. Thats not how the NBA works, oh you start we have to play you x amount of minutes. When you start it work to get there, work to stay there. Lin gets no special treatment from any other player. and he shouldnt.

Bottom line is coach has done a phenomenal job this season making the rockets what they are. Because at the beginning of the season we were projected not to even be in the playoff picture at this point and we were suppose to be a "Learning" team trying to get chemistry down and develop. No one expected us to be where we are at now and its because of our coach, so give the guy some credit for what he's done instead of nit picking on the games we've lost. He's done better than he has done bad reflecting our record.

 

Reminded me of Steve Francis ISO days