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Why doesn't McHale stagger Lin and Harden's minutes anymore?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by zawa, Mar 2, 2013.

  1. zawa

    zawa Member

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    I understand that Lin and Harden can play as cohesive teammates now and that Lin has learned to play off the ball much better but why did McHale stop staggering their minutes when it was working pretty well before?

    Even if it is in order to give Beverly more minutes, I believe Lin shouldn't sit on the bench for 8 - 10 minutes at a time since he is a streaky shooter and loses much of his rhythm when playing, give Lin 8 minutes in the first quarter, start the second quarter and give him around 6 - 8 minutes there (McHale can sub Lin out after 4 minutes and bring him back with 4 minutes left). Lin's shooting has obviously improved so I believe staggering the minutes between the two players will allow both of them to excel in their offensive role even more.
     
  2. durvasa

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    Patrick Beverley.
     
  3. iconoclastic

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    Beverley is not a playmaker when Harden and Lin are off the floor. I just don't think it's a good idea to run the offense through Beverley and Parsons. Harden and Lin play fine without one another, as their skills are somewhat redundant.
     
  4. Sports2012

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    Because it has never been the goal to stagger them. They were both brought in to be starters, especially now with some success for them to play at the same time.
     
  5. pollaxt

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    There should honestly be a time when Harden or Lin isn't on the court. I don't ever want to Delfino or even Parsons being the primary playmaker.
     
  6. durvasa

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    In 190 offensive possessions without Harden or Lin on the floor, Beverley has assisted on 36.7% of his teammates' baskets, and assisted at a rate of 15.3 per 100 possessions. By comparison, in 610 offensive possessions without Beverley or Harden on the floor, Lin has assisted 33% of his teammates' baskets, at a rate of 12.1 per 100 possessions.

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    Patrick Beverley:
                       [B]poss  ast/100poss  ast%[/B]
    no Lin, no Harden  190      15.3      36.7%
    Lin, Harden         37       0.0       0.0%
    no Lin, Harden     295       7.5      21.0%
    Lin, no Harden      43       4.7      11.1%
    
    Numbers from http://nbawowy.com.
     
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  7. SK34

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    so you're saying that beverly is better than lin. Jk.
     
  8. NotApollo33

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    Why does he have thread making privileges and I don't?
     
  9. Sports2012

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    I am not sure I fully understand you. But I think staggering would naturally happen because McHale most likely won't sub both Harden and Lin at the same time.

    I agree with you that at least one of Harden, Lin and Beverley should be playing the guard role while not leaving it all to Delfino or Parsons.
     
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    No one likes you? JK
     
  11. Sports2012

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    Great question.
     
  12. iconoclastic

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    Because his threads are of higher quality than the threads you made.
     
  13. GoRockets!

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    Good question.

    Although Harden and Lin have played better together recently, it's still best to stagger their minutes and let one of them on the court all the time in order to maximize both players production. Even Rockets own reporter Jason Friedman many times said in his twitter that Harden and Lin should not be sitting on the bench at the same time. Morey also said before in his interview that he would like to stagger Lin and Harden's minutes. There is a good reason why Hollinger (who first mentioned this idea before he became Grizzlies GM) and other hoop analysts suggested that.

    We don't know why McHale simply doesn't do that. Imo, it's just another example of how clueless McHale is when it comes to the his rotations. There are so many posts in other threads on McHale's frustrating decisions on in-game management that I don't even need to post them here.
     
  14. instar

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    bench has been productive. so no need to staggering minutes.
     
  15. kreia

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    Contrary to what most people believe, Lin is better with Harden and Harden is better with Lin. The team is best with both of them on at the same time 95% of the time.
     
  16. J.R.

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    You have to ask Daryl.
     
  17. instar

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    Actually stat shows lin is better without harden, harden is pretty much same whether he shares court with lin or not. It's a small sample size because they play together most of the time. but yes, the team is best with both on the floor.
     
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    if Aaron Brooks, who is too big of an attitude and problem for the Kings comes to our team and expects to play he is rudely mistaken. Beverley won us the game last night
     
  19. HardLin

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    There was another poster that posted stats for both Lin & Harden over the months of this season. Early in the season Lin did better alone. In the last few months Lin (& Harden) do better together. They've learned to co-exist.

    There was one game early in the season where McHale staggered Lin & Harden's minutes such that Toney Douglas got no time. I was not a fan of Douglas at that time so I liked this setup, but McHale immediately abandoned this the next game, and Douglas was back in the rotation. I'm not sure why. Lin absolutely excels against 2nd tier competition so I always though he would do well spending part of his time leading the 2nd unit against the other teams 2nd unit.
     
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    Would require mr "i dont run set plays. I just sit here and look like im taking a dump" to actually pay attention during a game
     

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