Are we just gonna ignore the magical game that Harris and Nicholson just had tonight?

We are who we are, But I'd rather go down with Terrence Jones getting some time rather than some skinny finesse wanna be Tom Chambers

 

I could care less about both of their trade values.

D-Mo was ultimately going to over-take Patterson and Morris' PT at some point. Any and every bit of trade value those two players would have this season and next would have been completely diminished ultimately.

This move had less to do with T-Robinson as much as it had to do with the Front Office's future plans for D-Mo.

Whether you think Robinson is worth the trade is one thing, but what you think about D-Mo LONGTERM is more relevant to the argument. Because thats the player the trade ultimately was more about in the first place.

 

couldnt agree more

 

Nicholson had ZERO rebounds!!!!!!!!!



sound familiar?

 

CH you're just trolling really hard right now

Strongly advise you step away from the BBS for a few days and take some time to cool down.

 

I agree with everything you said but a bigger reason is the fact that Smith has the IQ of a rock...yes ...A ROCK!

Worrel even called him out a couple of times , like dude why the hell are you shoving a guy when you've already boxed out for the rebound? Keeping one of the guys would have kept some stability. Had we lost tonight I could see us going on a really long losing streak again.

 

When it comes to Patterson you have to remember that he will be a restricted FA in one year. He was going to see a significant bump in his salary, 2yrs before Robinson. Like Clutch and Bima said on the podcast, part of this was about potential, as in TRob's higher potential, but another part is certainly about control. The Rockets in my mind unquestionably got worse this year. But a championship window if we are ever to have one wont even have a cjance of starting until two years from now. Could Patterson have been a valuable role player on a contender? Sure he could have. But probably the front office crunched the numbers and decided it was better not to have to pay a guy like that 6-9M per year when the highest probability is that we bench him in favor of an actual superstar at thr PF spot.

We knew what Patterson was. I think early on I hoped hard for a third best player kind of guy like Horace Grant or Antonio McDyess or Robert Horry, but even that became out of his reach after year 2. The guys we do have in the PF rotation now are worse but habe more potential. Potential as in future star or future trade chip. Either way gets us closer to where we need to go than keeping Patterson does.

 

And PPatt lit it up tonight with 6pts 5rbs in 26mins.

 

My Z-Bo thread is the source of yet another thread title. I'm glad I'm such an inspiration to the Clutchfans community.

 

Agreed.

We get it, you don't like the trade. Lets revisit it a little later...

If this is supposed to be about Tobes, who the Bucks foolishly gave up on then it should be in the NBA forum. Looks like he's going to be a really good player in this league.

 

I respectfully disagree. If you put 2Pat on the bench for less than 15 steady minutes a game, and only use him or miss as a "defensive specialist" their trade value drops to near zilch... Just look at the great offers that came this month for Lou Amundsen.

The front office obviously wanted to take away the comfort blanket. Its going to be painful at first, but hopefully over the next few weeks the short term pain will be worth the long term gain. The results are yet to be seen, but no pain, no gain. Its the nature of the beast. If you think Patterson and Morris are the difference makers in this team ultimately competing for a championship, you are wildly mistaken.

The worst sin Morey can make now is settling on a team that he falls in love with at this stage of the game... have to keep on upgrading internally or externally.

 

Trade was a huge mistake. Robinson looks like a buffoon every time he plays.

 

why is a thread discussing 2 players on the orlando magic posted in the GARM?

mods, please move this to the nba dish.

 

Carl Herrera,

You are overreacting. Donatas and Robinson had 5 rebound in 37 minutes. Those are PPat Numbers.

 

By moving out Morris and Patterson the Rockets saved 1 1/2 mil overall next season. They are able to waive Robinson's team option after next season if they wish and use him as an expiring contract.

Again.... If D-Mo, Jones, (White?), or a free agent PF are the future... it still makes sense to make this move regardless of what you think of Robinson. Th move gives you A. room for D-Mo, Jones to get PT, B. clears MORE cap space for 2013 free agency/trades and C. sets the clock back another year or two for the contracts of your PF's which continues to be one of the most volatile positions on the roster.

Yes, missing the playoffs this year would suck, and the trade would be an easy scapegoat, but if your focused on the long term, its still a move you should be glad the GM has the "you know whats" to pull the trigger on.

 

Well if we trade one of Morris or Patterson, basically all we could do is replace Morris'/Patterson's minutes with DMo. Im starting to think it would have been nice to keep Patterson, and Douglas (another PG, but now we have brooks), but whatever. What's done is done, they aren't rockets anymore

 

Somewhere along the way it most people have forgotten that this is a rebuilding year. It should be about development and getting guys playing time to build for the future. I know where your coming from but I think it just doesn't make sense to keep a PAT if we are not contending. We would be ruining growth of young guys and not winning a championship. We would just be keeping the status quo. I want to make the playoffs with this squad as much as anyone but its about the bigger picture. D-mo is the future. Pat was not. Not about who's better now.