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My Thoughts about Lin, Harden and McHale

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by wanghan2004281, Feb 28, 2013.

  1. SwellyExpress

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    OP is def royce white. remember when he came out and said that most nba players have a mental condition?
     
  2. King1

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    The TS is missing a chromosome
     
  3. doggoneit

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    From my observation, Harden is unselfish but he can go to iso mode for stretches and forgets everyone on the team. But I think he's learning that iso-Harden usually results in low shooting percentage, and when he operates within team offense, he shoots a much higher percentage.

    Parsons, he's a terrific and multi-talented, all around player, I do like him but I'm singling him out in that sometimes he decides to score and the ball just sticks in his hands and he becomes very unwilling to pass. Even when someone is wide open he decides to go to the basket, drives to traffic and usually results in turnover, or missed layup. He needs to realize that he's no Harden and needs to move the ball and not force the issue sometimes...

    McHale I think he's very well respected by the players. I think he's least of our problems.

    Lin - I agree with OP that he goes all out only with the coaches' green light/ approval, which of course happened only when Harden is out with injuries (Spurs game)... I think he's easily discouraged/ disappointed when he's open but Harden/ Parsons just wave him off. He wants everyone on the team to play team ball and move the ball when an important player like Harden/ Parsons goes selfish for stretches he is pissed.
     
  4. conquistador#11

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    harden and lin can be wonderful together, as we seen in multiple games this season, but it's going to take some effort, not from them, but from the guys 'coaching'.
     
  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Lin's not an All-star, but he's not average either. Guy puts up 7-8 assists on many nights, up their in the league in steals, and has improved his shooting of late. He also isn't turning the ball over nearly as much. Plus he doesn't get credit for breaking down defenses. Unlike Harden, who will most often times take the shot (which is fine because of his efficiency), Lin's drives usually is about scoring for others. And he doesn't always get the assist because the score comes off of multiple passes.

    Realize how McHale uses Lin. He doesn't use him to be a scorer unless it makes sense at that moment. He uses Lin to set-up the offense and help the team. ANd he does a very good job of that for such an inexperienced player.

    His IQ, quickness, and ball handling are all excellent. In fact, his ball handling has improved so much since last year. I think saying he is "average" is about the same as saying he is an "all-star". He's neither. He's a quality starting point guard.
     
  6. anthony1604

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    God, this psycho-analytical Sigmund Freud crap tilts me so hard. So Lin/Harden need to start seeing a shrink? OP sounds like he never played rough, physical sports in his life. Try it sometimes, then you'll stop spouting this BS.
     
  8. Sherlockfever

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    I can understand OP, he was worried that those issues might hold Lin/Harden back, thus hurt the team, though i don't really agree with, but i won't call it BS
     
  9. lwlee

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    Dude, it's b*ll*****. Say they have their kumbaya/touchy-feely moment. They get to learn and love their "inner" selves and one another. Next thing you know, Morey ships Lin's ass off to another team in a mega-deal. Now how does Lin feel? It's a business, bro. Pull up your big boy's pants and just play the *****ing game.

     
  10. BleedRed

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    Wait, your signature about Allegro is ridiculous. He is right. If you don't have unbiased/unbastardized numbers and stats behind what you are saying, it IS an opinion and will be construed as not credible by those with opposing viewpoint. Its like me saying, Wilt Chamberlain is the best player ever to play the game of basketball but to someone who thinks Michael Jordan is the best, what I said could come across as biased and hence not credible. Got it?? I guess not.
     
  11. jtr

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    This thread is utter nonsense from my viewpoint. If a psychiatrist wants to weigh in with his opinion, then I will listen.
     
  12. BleedRed

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    I will psycho analysis this EVEN further lol, its simple, Lin comes across as hesitant because the role the coaching staff has him playing is just not what he is comfortable with. He needs his Pick and roll plays where he knows exactly what he should or could do next. Less uncertainty, right now, just attacking the basket in a crowded area with close outlet pass blocked off is whats throwing his game off.

    Not saying Lin needs MORE touches, he definitely needs quality touches that he is comfortable with.
     
  13. mirus

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    Man,can we get some good analysis instead of throwing up some "common weakness" among a particular race?
     
  14. RockingRox

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    This OP post is so judgmental.

    Any idea, OP, who should the Rockets get instead?
     
  15. BleedRed

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    Agreed. Sorry OP, I am a Lin fan and all, but it has nothing to do with him being Asian. If your theory is true, Lin could/would have gone through similar issues with coaches in his pee wee team, HS team, college team, in practice etc. He overcame all that, so your theory about Lin is first ridiculous second just wrong. It is more about him being uncomfortable with the type of plays he is running.
     
  16. davidio840

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    Are you Allegro?
     
  17. BleedRed

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    counter my point or you are wasting time trolling threads
     
  18. davidio840

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    My point is, you are either Allegro or you have his balls in your mouth.
     
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    Good analysis. Wrong one but at least it appears you thought about this.
     
  20. Sherlockfever

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    i hate the 'it's business' talks. no, business is always being carried out by people, it's always about people. business is a lame excuse for cruelty and greedy, but we are adults, so we have to digest and live with it.

    i guess we are kind of off topic. OP stated his concerns, that's what he observed and thought might hurt the team, though i don't really agree with, i feel uncomfortable to see his work being called BS.
     

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