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ClutchFans Game Thread: Bucks @ Rockets 2/27/2013

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. Grigori

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    They ask him to faciliate my ass. Most of the time, they ask him to him bring the ball past half court, pass off to somebody curling off an off-the-ball screen, then space the floor. That's not asking him to faciliate.

    He can either bring the ball past half court, pass off to somebody curling off an off-the-ball screen, then space the floor, or he can be aggressive. Asking him to do both at the same time constitutes conflicting orders.
     
  2. Sports2012

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    We blew a 17 point (28-11) lead down to two in six minutes in the first quarter after TRob came in. The commentator said both DMo and TRob were new in the lineup so the team work may not be ready.

    We lost close to 30 PTS of firepower (from PPat, Morris and TD) after the trade.

    This loss and the Wizards game are on Morey and McHale.

    Hope both DMo and TRob could catch up quick. We are only 2.5 games ahead of the Lakers now.
     
  3. Grigori

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    It is generally understood that small ball is mathematically sound over the long term, except in the playoffs and in crunch times of close games when teams tighten up and fight hard to control possessions.

    Make a wild guess which category the final 90 sec of a close game falls under.
     
  4. CuriousG11

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    I know Harden is the #1 option, but I feel like the coaches letting him dominate the ball too much. It's just the little things. Like every inbound, there always seems to be somebody else in the backcourt looking to bring the ball up, while Lin just waits and sees who the inbounder will pass it to. Harden should just get down the floor if the opponent scores...no need to dribble the ball up the court.

    Also, I think everything Lin is good at is being neutralized by the coaching staff. He is not a spot up shooter (although he will get better with practice). He's a play maker. Anybody can bring the ball up the court and pass it off. There should be more player movement in the half-court set. Don't send Lin to the corner and wait for the ball to swing around to him.

    As a side note, the fast break possession in the last few minutes of the game, there was a two on one, Lin and Harden. If Harden just passed the ball to Lin, we would've gotten an easy layup. Instead, he forced it and got his shot blocked. Every time Lin is on a 2 on 1 fast break with the ball, he's going to pass it off at the last minute (i.e. T-Robs first points). Even though Harden ended up making a fantastic layup to tie the game to make it up, that shouldn't excuse him for selfishness.
     
  5. SuperStar

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    I never liked it when McHale goes small ball even when it works. Just seems too gimmicky. Just stick with your starting lineup or players that are hot.
     
  6. DOLPHIN2k2

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    Agree, I was at the NETS game and he does tend to force the issue at least a couple of times per game.
     
  7. Fighton

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    But mchale acknowledges that lin is by nature a home run hitter. he knows lin's aggressiveness is what makes him valuable and yeah he'll make some bonehead plays here and there but he also contributes a lot more positive plays playing this way. and it's not really like baseball since in bball a shot is a shot. you either make it or you don't.

    mchale's point is for lin to make the easy play, take what the defense is giving him and not attack the way the lin knows how. well, by definition that is NOT being aggressive. it's like saying.. be aggressive and attack the defense.. but don't take risks and only take what the defense is giving you and make the easy pass/play. this just doesn't make any sense at all.

    i've never, up until tonight, bought in to the argument that mchale is limiting lin. but it just doesn't make sense to me that he would go from shooting 19 shots a game to shooting 10 and totally change how he contributes on offense. no sense at all. no reasonable explanation except that's what he is asked to do (and correlate that with mchale's recent quote of 29pts and 9 TO's)..
     
  8. SuperStar

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    11 is about how much he usually takes. http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jeremy_lin/game_by_game_stats.html
     
  9. Benchwarmer

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    It's true, Bucks were playing to win this game, Rockets were playing to develop young talent like T-Rob and DMo so Morey can assess them and shop them for trades in the offseason.
    I hate the management style of just using players as trade assets to build cap space ... hoping for a future jackpot.
     
  10. brick

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    Well said. When our PG was the main ball handler in the first quarter, our offense is much fun to watch and we got a 17pt lead. Then the coach switched to the preferred music-chair ball handling and the players became careless.
     
  11. Spiegel

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    The defense is where the Bucks got back into it. the offense was fine. we had 36 points in the 1st.The second quarter was the offensive breakdown.
     
  12. Dementium

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    Actually, I don't get why you guys are so upset.

    2.12 @Warriors
    2.13 @LA Clippers
    2.20 vs Thunder
    2.22 @Nets
    2.23 @Wizards
    2.27 vs Bucks

    4 away games, 3 games in 4 nights, the Warriors, the Clippers and the Thunder and we came away from that 3-3. This plus the loss of Patterson, Morris and Douglas.

    Heck, I think the team is doing okay.

    That said I sure as hell hope they blow out the Magic and the Mavs next!
     
  13. timyeung

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    We're upset because the Rockets had home court advantage and 3 days of rest against a Bucks team we were supposed to beat that was playing a back to back. We're upset because we lost due to a hail mary shot in a tied game. We're upset because our new player TRob didn't play as well as we all hoped. Other than that we are just fine.
     
  14. timyeung

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    Oh yeah also upset cuz we squandered a 17 point lead. OK, now we are fine again.
     
  15. crimmy88

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    Because the last 2 games were supposed to be wins and our chance to catch up with Utah and GSW but we blew it and instead gave the Lakers mroe hope to overtake us.
     
  16. jeddah

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    If Harden is always efficiently good, then we should not be battling at the 8'th seed right now...we should be in the 6'th seed....

    Just accept it, if only he'll exert some effort in their defense they will be in a good position right now....offense can only take you to some extent...not all the way up...
     
  17. Dementium

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    Have faith people!

    As my previous post showed, its not exactly doom and gloom. And I'm confident when all is said and done the Lakers and the Jazz will be behind us in the standings when the season ends.

    The team just had a run of bad luck in the last two games.

    Besides, Dmo, Asik, Parsons, Lin, Harden. It seems like we just found our first team for the future!
     
  18. lomahtw

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    Lin is a type of player who absolutely plays as exactly the way what his coach tells him to do on the court. Some fans say he is too passive on the court and not try to be more agressive instead. Since we are in no way knowing exactly what goes on between the coaching staff and Lin, I can only presume Lin will comply what he is told to do instead of making his own decisions on the court as sometimes needed. For instance, we so so often see him dribble the ball pass the half court and then pass it to whoever (mostly Harden) and then stand around the corner waiting for spot up shot if given the ball again. It is so often that he should take the shot but rather he passes it to someone else instead regardless of his shot will go in or not. Logically if you are a player on the court, you don't do the same thing over again and again in every game without making any adjustments as required. How good or bad he plays is one issue but how he is told to play is another issue. Some may argue that any players should adjust their own ways of playing when instructed or asked. However I think any players should be played the way they are best at. Isn't it why you sign and/or trade players to play certain positions in your team to begin with? Under normal cirscumstances, you sign/trade a player and then try to change his way of playing. Although sometimes it does but is uncommon.

    BTW Harden's joining the team does have good and bad sides on Lin. However, I think Harden's contribution to the team so far is more than that. Harden is not the one to blame or not to blame. At least not directly. He is doing more than fine over all.

    If Lin continues to play or to be played like this inconsistently regardless of whether it is his own fault or the coaching staff's fault, he may likely be traded before his contract is over or will go after his contract is over. No human knows the future but can only predict it. So we can only wait and see.
     
  19. scaramanga

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    Just bad luck, that's all.... I was expecting OT for this game... losing the 17points lead 2 games in a row, needs looking into... I knda expected the wizards would gave us a good fight... same with the bucks....

    On to the next game!
     
  20. daywalker02

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    cry me a river
     

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