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My Thoughts about Lin, Harden and McHale

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by wanghan2004281, Feb 28, 2013.

  1. wanghan2004281

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    Lin does have holes in his game skill-wise. However the bigger issue is he has some neurosis issue which is quite common in the asian community which means he sometime lacks confidence and is afraid to challenge authorities. He only fully believe in himself when his coach (used to be his parents) trusts him.

    Handen is a great individual basketball player. But he has a certain degree of character-disorder meaning he doesn't trust others easily and he lacks communication ability. He is not an ideal team player at this point of his career. When things don't go his way, he tends to shut himself off from others rather than open up. To be honest, I think this is the reason that OKC let him go. Westbrook is god-awful sometimes in terms of boneheaded plays but he communicate better with KD and other teammates.

    McHale is NOT a coach. Forget about a good one or a bad one. He doesn't know what to coach. A big time player can rarely become a good coach. Cuz usually they have big personalities. They are too busy being themselves to see the bigger picture and understand different kinds of players. So he won't adequately develop these young players. He can be a great big man trainer. Morey needs to look elsewhere for a head coach.

    Personalities are the first and foremost factor you need to look at when you try to judge people.

    I am not dissing any one of these three people. They all have reasons to become the persons they are today. Hope they can help each other and work things out.
     
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    Do you know Harden personally? Otherwise how in the world could you possibly know that?
     
  4. The Rocket

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    shut up
     
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  5. wanghan2004281

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    I don't know him personally. It's just observation. I am not hating on anybody. I hope they can all get better and work together and make the rockets as a team more successful.
     
  6. LBJ-Tmac

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    I get what you mean about Lin, it comes from an Asian background and upbringing.
     
  7. rev1274

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    I am a LOF.

    My problem with Lin is that when he drives to the basketball, he *Sometimes* hesitates when throwing the ball to the basket. Sometimes he throws it to Delfino, or Parsons, and sometimes he attempts to shoot the ball. But if you watch carefully, you can see him hesitate a little thinking about passing it around or shooting.

    Problem with Harden is that he's not a PG he's a SG. He tries to be a PG, and look at his TO. I notice he doesn't really pass the ball to Lin very much, and the last few games, he's been only throwing it to Parsons.

    Lin has to control the ball. Once he's able to move the ball with everyone, then Harden can come in.
     
  8. ParsonsBoy

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    TROLOL much?
     
  9. wanghan2004281

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    Of course not. I'm very sincere and hope they all can improve as a person and player. As Phil Jackson said, building a championship team is more of a spiritual journey rather than just randomly putting talents together. I think we actually can appreciate them more if we understand their personalities better.
     
  10. SuperStar

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    Yeah we need more thugs on this team.
     
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    lmao ur sig with the brains guy hahaha, killin me here
     
  12. SuperStar

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    Man, I miss Allegro, I think he changed his name because of my sig maybe.

    Oh and the half a brain guy is still on the forums but under a different "Rock" name.
     
  13. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    Wow... The whole opening post is a stretch. (Insert that's what she said response)

    Lin is underconfident? Harden doesn't trust his teammates? Coach McHale is a bad coach because he is a former player? Wow...

    Lin is an average player. That's it. He isn't horrible, but he is far from all-star level. He is a volume player who needs the ball to be effective. He had that in New York, but here he doesn't have it nearly as much so. Lin had a great stretch of games, but it's just that, a great stretch of games. Lin's volume makes him loose with the ball and therefor turnover prone. That has nothing to do with his personality, it has everything to do with his player style. He is a tad bit over-rated, but he fits his role here. I would like more out of him, but whatever.

    It's comical you think Harden's personality disorder is why OKC let him go. OKC let him go because they are a smaller market team. They couldn't afford him and KD and Westbrook. OKC was impuslive and stupid, not Harden. If OKC was as methodical as you make them seem they would have held on to him and gotten more out of the deal. Harden doesn't shut his teammates out when the games get tough, he tries to put the team on his shoulders and cary them to victory. That's what a star does. Kobe did it, MJ did it, Dream did it. That's what stars do, and damn it if Lin did that once and a while I might feel inclined to call him a star too.

    As for McHale, he's a players coach. He isn't an X's and O's coach. He let's players play. He isn't there to draw up plays. McHale is here to make sure that matchups are right and that the big men are trained. If we wanted a coach to run sets we could easily swap him out. Why are the Rockets so offensively efficient? The players run what they can on the break, if that fails they run a series of picks to find a shot. If the Rockets relied on sets they would look to the break less and score fewer points. It's run and gun 2.0 It works for now.

    I don't think there's anything wrong with their personalities, and truth be told had we beat Washington and the Bucks, this thread wouldn't exist.
     
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    If Lin IS the typical Asian stereotype ... he wouldn't be in the NBA. He's be at an investment bank after a Harvard education. If he really lacked confidence or depended on his coach to give him confidence, his playing career would've ended when he was a 5'7" high school player weighing 120lbs in Palo Alto, or when he was overlooked for a college basketball scholarship, or when he was undrafted out of Harvard, or when he couldn't get playing time in his rookie season. Linsanity would not have happened without Lin having confidence in his game (and D'Antoni did not have confidence in Lin ... he didn't even want to play Lin and he gave Lin time out of desperation due to injuries, a game before he was going to get cut for Mike James if I remember correctly).

    Harden is very much a team player. He is also the designated go-to player on this team and counted on take to his team to victory, and while he iso and TO too much, he is only 23 and will balance his responsibilities and the team game better as he matures. Not like MJ or Kobe 'got it' when they were 23, or that Kobe has ever 'gotten it'. Chris Paul is probably the only guy I can think of with superstar talent and performance that could balance his own game and team play coming out of college and doing it at a very young age in the NBA. But unfortunately Paul has been injury prong.

    McHale's inability to make good in-game/situational adjustments have nothing to do with his hall of fame top 50 player status. But he has other 'attributes' which are desirable in a coach. Just when the game actually starts ... he's pretty average at best.

    You're not dissing. You're judging. And you're judging based on bias, stereotyping and misinformation (or misuse of information).

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    Wow I am speechless
     
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    Didn't you post this garbage in the game thread? Did you create this thread because you were afraid nobody would read it?
     
  17. infinitidoug

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    neurosis? common in the asian community? afraid to challenge authorities?

    I don't know what kind of pansy community you grew up amongst, but Asians, not just Oriental Asians, are some of the most stubborn people that will retaliate when pissed off from my observation. With a name like "Wanghan", I'm pretty surprised your parents haven't smacked you for labeling such a negative stereotype on the whole Asian population.
     
  18. mike_lu

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    He obviously didn't know that Lin pissed off his coaches in HS and the first couple of years in college because he couldn't be bothered taking practice seriously, and always challenged the coaches.

    The OP just hypothesizes based on stereotyping.
     
  19. SuperStar

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    Also because of neurosis issue Lin is not a good driver :(
     
  20. gnozahs

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    Lolololol
     

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