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McHale "(Lin) rather have 29pts and 9 TOs, I tell him 'we wanna win'""

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Lucky Charm, Feb 24, 2013.

  1. iohudave

    iohudave Member

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    I don't believe he actually said those words, you know the media...
    However, if its true that he did say that... Lololololol......he is clueless. I will start worrying about my rockets.
     
  2. Aleron

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    Mchale doesn't mince words, that Celtics style probably isn't the best for people with thin skin.
     
  3. cw3k

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    He is the PG, he suppose to be the center of universe because he control the offense. I just don't know which team have their PG carry the ball to the half court, pass it to the SG (or designed goto player) and then camp at the corner for 3s. Not Nash, Not Chamler, Not Parker, Not Westbrook, not Rondo, no Irving, Not Wall, not even Felton or Kidd.

    This is not the beauty of basketball. If you want to see what beauty of basketball, go see a college basketball. Do you a pg camping? Better yet, do you see anyone camping?
     
  4. cheke64

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    I don't like this basketball philosophy rockets have. No post plays. This **** is wack too me. That run and gun style is for somebody behind a ps3 controller. Phil jackson is a legend. Go analyze his method.
     
  5. King1

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    Who exactly would you have run post plays for so far this season? Asik can barely catch a pass and Patterson was an undersized four who shot jumpers. phil Jackson had Jordan/Pippen and Shaq/Kobe.
     
  6. jeddah

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    Yes, social media is scary...just look at what is happening here in the forum...:)

    One of the reasons that I cut McHale some slack because I know that it's not an easy job for him to coach 11 new players at the start of the season....he needs to know those new players, learn their tendencies, coached and develop them at the same time...as I've posted in one thread, I don't want McHale to be fired...give him this season as he is also learning to adapt to this new team of players... and wait until next season as to what he will gonna do with his roster...

    Lack of Offensive sets - yes, aside from his questionable substitution pattern, this is one of the things that I don't like about our coaching staff...they are there to coach a team and to develop a game for them...But I seldom see our team running an offensive set...they are all Drive- Kick out - shoot..so predictable..that's why we are advocating that they should let Lin play as a PG most of the time because only Lin has the ability to run an offensive set..Harden should not do it because opposing team surely knew that Harden will go to the hole in each of his drive thus they are ready for anything Harden will do...Delfino cannot...Bev, for now just cannot do it..Parson's as well...yes, they can bring the ball up in half court but Jlin should be the one to run the play because opposing teams surely doesn't know what Lin would gonna do....

    And to delegate Lin at the corner three to spot up is just not so effective because Lin is not an effective spot up shooter for now...and I noticed that he needs to feel the game in order for him to be an effective shooter...he has to to play longer than 30 minutes in order for him to be effective...not just on back to back because he tends to regress at the next game....
     
  7. sammsung987

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    Mchale does not want Lin to be a HOME RUN HITTER.
    By home run hitter, this is what he wants lin to cut down on.

    1. Create his own shot with dribble drive for basket or foul shot.
    2. Making hard passes for assists
    3. Gamble on defense to get steals

    Cutting down on being a home run hitter will also cut down on Lins turnovers but it will forever kill linsanity.

    Dont you see Mchale on the sidelines waving his hands back and forth all the time. He wants Lin to swing the ball from left to right. Shoot when open. Dump the ball to Harden. Drive and kick out. Lin obviously knows what Mchale wants him to do but He is a homerun hitter. Even tho he says he agrees with mchale, he cant help but do those things because thats what he believes helps the team. This forever conflict of playing style will never be solved and will end up with one of them departing.
     
  8. Karolik

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    Wrong, it WAS taken out of context. When he said 85% he meant 85% until he could start playing 5 vs 5's not until he was healthy.
     
  9. cheke64

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    For faks sake setting a pick isn't hard to learn.

    Lakers would be winning right now if Phil was coaching them

    I'm still baffled how many chips Jordan and pippen won.
     
  10. jeddah

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    It was not a question of why Lin should play in that 85% state, whether it's on 5 or 5 or in an actual game...delusional fans and media wanted him to play even though everybody knows that he is not yet 100% recovered, thus the 85%....

    They wanted him to play no matter what his condition is...and in addition, he doesn't have a contract yet for the next season....whatever will happen to him on court, Knicks has no liability...look at what happened to Baron Davis...after that ACL I'm pretty sure Knicks will not take him again...look at Shump..if not for Coach Woody, he is at the verge of being traded because his production was not the same as before after that ACL...
     
  11. SuperStar

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    lol to be fair dude was butt kissing to the extreme to a poster that was just repeating himself over and over 150+ posts. Some of my best friends are Lin fans Lucky Charm, Roxxy, heck even Raksol.
     
  12. cw3k

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    Except McHale is not Phil Jackson.
     
  13. cw3k

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    Or Look at Rose, came back in a hurry and only got injured again and out for a whole season. Only different between Rose and Lin is Rose is proven and already locked in a max contract. Lin is not and a free agent. If I were Lin, I wouldn't play either.
     
  14. khanhdum

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    not sure if it has been said, but mchale is giving lin some tough love. Popovich is probably the best coach in the nba right now and he gave parker and ginobli a hard time when they were young. He was still giving Duncan an earful and chewing him up a game they won against GSW last week. it's up to Jeremy to get motivation from it and be better.
     
  15. Sports2012

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    Since you mention that "Mchale on the sidelines waving his hands back and forth all the time," and I believe most people at the arena have been seeing this happen all the time too, I can't help thinking if these in-game clutch interferences had directly caused the hesitations and over-thinking that Lin displayed from time to time, especially when we are playing at the top pace of the league.

    He might already been in action with some plan or play in mind and then suddenly saw McHale waving his hands and yelling something. Would this disturb what you are doing if it were you? (This question is intended for all readers, not the poster I am replying to.)

    Changing plan and action in split second might not be as easy a thing to do as some may think.
     
  16. cw3k

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    Pop runs an offensive and defensive system that no other coach can match. He has a proven system that players MUST fit in. What is McHale's system?
     
  17. khanhdum

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    that's fine and dandy but that's not the point.

    "Throughout the season, Parker also felt that he was often criticized too harshly by coach Popovich; in retrospect, coach Popovich admitted he was critical of his young playmaker, stating he wanted Parker to build a thick skin and mature sooner than his peers"

    What I am saying, possibly Mchale sees the talent Lin has and is looking to bring out the best out of him through tough love.
     
  18. BleedRed

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    Tough love in private is not the issue here, its the public dissing that Lin would sometimes rather go 29pts and 9 TOs (Linsanity reference/hit homeruns) than do whats necessary for the team to win is the issue here.

    Look we don't need all these McHalish to english translators here spinning what he really meant. You guys who are still going round and round about what McHale could have meant, is whats derailing this thread. Look McHale is an adult, he used the word "rather" and everything I mentioned above, lets give him the benefit of the doubt that he friggin meant what he said. If he comes out and says he misspoke, then I will drop this. In the meantime, don't be speaking for a 60 year old HOF'er.
     
  19. BleedRed

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    repeating myself over and over, because the counter is the same over and over, just being spouted by different McHale apologist. Now you sound like someone who spews a racist slurs but defend himself by saying oh some of my friends are minorities. If you are not a Lin fan, don't come into a Lin thread. Plenty of threads where you can get nodding heads in this forum.
     
  20. GoRockets!

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    "to be fair?" oh, puleeeeeaaaazz, you think you are the only fair poster here? :rolleyes:

    Butt-kissing? I explained that I was mainly impressed by the way and tenacity BleedRed argues and makes counter-arguments, which part of that post you don't understand?

    If you think BleedRed was repeating himself over and over 150+ posts, that's because many posters are repeating the same assumption over and over that the report on the newspaper was not true and accusing BleedRed for his own interpretation of what's reported in the newspaper. Aren't you one of the accusers too that contributed to those 150+ replies from BleedRed?

    And stop bring out the so-called your Lin fans friends names. What do you want to prove? Lucky Charm, the OP, replied that she has no problem with all the debate and posts from BleedRed and she called Bobbythegreat a TRoll, who was the main poster that caused the biggest chunk of the 150 replies from the BleedRed.

    Oh, before you label me and accuse me again as fanatic Lin fan, which people like you seems always like to do: No, I don't think McHale hates Lin; No, I don't think there is any conspiracy whatsoever against Lin from the coaches; No, I don't think Lin is a superstar, in fact, I think he is an average PG this season and it will be very hard for Lin to even become the top 10PG in his career.

    Sigh, why do I have to declare my position when it comes to Lin? As I said in my yesterday's post, even hayparter, a-99er, had to defend his position for supporting Lin in this thread. It is exactly because people like you are constantly labeling the posters and lumping the Lin fans and accusing the Lin fans. Don't you realize you are one of the type that contributed to the tiring fight? It takes two to make a quarrel.
     

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