McHale "(Lin) rather have 29pts and 9 TOs, I tell him 'we wanna win'""

Why bother? Some fans are just plain ignorant

 

I am not really sure if we are welcome here because even from the start we are ostracized as his fan and that all we ever say is Lin that , Lin this ...I don't know with with my fellow Lin fans but I do notice that as a Lin fan, if we don't agree with older posters here, we are not part of the group..we are in a different world and we are unreasonable...

Before when we say that the reason of his struggles was because of his injury, fans here will say, B***s***, it's just an excuse..he is a joke..he is a scrub..and so on and so forth...

When we complain that Sampson was misusing him and that "eye test" was debated, we are called out again...when we claim that JLin is a great defender as a PG, we are called out again..but look at now, people are slowly realizing that JLin is indeed a great Defender ( number 9 in the recent Defensive Player list )..

We always says that Jlin is not a good spot up shooter but people here says that he needs to learn to shoot...He is learning, people are just impatient...and the logic seems skewed...Lin is a PG with great court vision and can penetrate well in the paint..delegating him as a spot up shooter does not only hinders his growth but the team is not getting the maximum talent that he could offer...

When we claim like this, people say we are only focus on Lin and his stats to improve, but people should realize that we are also looking at the bigger picture...when Lin is the official PG of the team, a lot of his team mates are benefiting...Harden had his efficient scoring games..Asik will improve his scoring ( if he can develop his PNR )..the perimeter guys will be able to have their numbers because of the kick-out that Lin will give them when he is penetrating...

Linsanity is not about the stats of JLin as what other people here are saying...it is about a beautiful basketball games that was taking place during that stretch...that is what the fans of Jlin are missing..not his stats but the excitement of a great game they are playing...

sorry for the long post but this is already out of context...just tired of people calling us out because we are Lin fans...

 

Correction : *was about

 

I don't know but I never called someone a hater..a troll maybe ( sorry King1 and ijholmes )..but a hater no...

Biased, yes, but not the posters but the coaching staff....

Mchale apologist, maybe because there is no other words to express it..

But common, these words were not that strong compared to what people here are calling us...this thread was about Lin and McHale so naturally all his fans will come out and say something...if it's not about Lin then only the select few will take time and post something...

In my honest opinion, people here in the thread are just excited that these type of threads are coming up because they can debate and debate and debate without end because they knew that most of Lin fans will come out and post....

 

There's beautiful basketball being played all the time, including right here in Houston which has one of the most exciting teams in the NBA!

What you LOFs miss is Lin being the center of the universe.

Do you even like basketball? If Jeremy was a pop singer, tennis player or UFC fighter, would it make any difference?

 

That was an entirely different scenario..it was not taken out of context but the truth..people knew that he was not fully healthy but they are clamoring him to play in his 85% state?

 

It means Jeremy Lin forgot to take care the ball while trying to make up the points we fall.

~BOREDNSLEEPY~

Everybody understand the quote differently.

 

That's it..I already knew why a lot of people here are so hard on Lin and his fans....people are jealous that Lin had been so popular because of that Linsanity...you were jealous that even though the previous Rockets were excelling no one was taking notice...and so when Lin arrives in Houston, you have this thinking that his millions of fans will descend to your lair and disrupt the organization because he got a lot of fanatics...that's the only reason I can come up now...

No, we don't miss Lin as being the center of the Universe, we only want him to develop his game and to see how far he can go...it's only the people that are putting words into our post that all we care is him and only him regardless of the team situation..that's all baloney...

Yes, I grow up watching basketball..I grow up watching Jordan and his Chicago Bulls era...but sad to say, I stopped watching after the Jordan era because no one in the league appeals to me more than him..I liked Lebron and Kobe but I don't like them to the extent that I'll watch every game they have..so yes, I knew and has been a basketball fan for quite a long time..

If Jeremy was not in the NBA then surely I'll not consume my energies and time in this forum debating endlessly for him....

 

I didn't follow the Rockets much until Morey snagged Lin and Asik with poison pills (which fascinated me as I followed the Knicks and Bulls), so no I'm not jealous of Linsanity. I'm a huge Lin fan! LOL

I don't think LOFs and other people will ever understand each other, so nevermind. Peace.

 

hey...calm down...honestly, McHale just made a bad analogy and NY Media distorted his remarks. DON'T buy into it. I think it's just a misunderstanding.

#Jonathan Feigen ‏@Jonathan_Feigen Feb 23
McHale on Lin: "Jeremy's becoming a better pt gd all the time. I couldn't be happier with him." Past 10 gms Lin shooting 50.4 %; 50 % on 3s.

#Jason Friedman ‏@JasonCFriedman
To sum up: That snippet was taken from pregame intvw in which McHale RAVED about Jeremy. Said he couldn't be

Jason Friedman ‏@JasonCFriedman
happier about his growth and progress. That quote in question was made in reference to McHale's desire to more

 

this is my first time to comment in this site but i've been watching houston since the time of kenny smith,vernon maxwell,sam cassell,mario ellie,the dream,etc...this is the 2nd time that i got excited because right now,i can say that we have a basketball team in houston,the only missing link on this team is a coach that doesn't have any agenda to lead this team.We have a very young and talented players that can be a force in 1-2 years,if the management just open their eyes and look what's wrong in this team,then we have something cooking!

 

Easy, Francis. You sound like a LOF.

 

No need to apologize to me (although I respect that you did it and I offer the same apology if I've called you anything offensive). I dish it out so I have to accept getting it back.

I will say that the thing that bothers me most is the attitude that some of us want Lin to fail (fans, coaching staff). I'm not talking about the people who joined the forum just to troll (there are those on both sides hence the reputation of the 2012 and 2013 dates). Posters who have been here for a while are Rockets fans first and foremost. If Lin excels, it helps us win and that's the end result that appeases everyone. Now I'm not saying all people with those join dates are bad. Many fans who just came for Lin or just happpened to join the site recently have te ability to have intelligent discussions, but even some of Lin's rational supporters would have to admit that a lot of his fans are unbearable. They don't care about the rockets at all and everything is centered on Lin. That's going to bother any true fan of a team. In terms of the coaching staff, their jobs are on the line. Every coach is going to favor certain players, but they are going to always do what they think is best for the team to win. We may not agree with their decisions, but there is a reason they're coaches at the highest level of basketball and we're typing crituqes on an internet website

Just my .2 cents but again, respect to you for the apology and calm demanor

 

No need to apologize to me (although I respect that you did it and I offer the same apology if I've called you anything offensive). I dish it out so I have to accept getting it back.

I will say that the thing that bothers me most is the attitude that some of us want Lin to fail (fans, coaching staff). I'm not talking about the people who joined the forum just to troll (there are those on both sides hence the reputation of the 2012 and 2013 dates). Posters who have been here for a while are Rockets fans first and foremost. If Lin excels, it helps us win and that's the end result that appeases everyone. Now I'm not saying all people with those join dates are bad. Many fans who just came for Lin or just happpened to join the site recently have te ability to have intelligent discussions, but even some of Lin's rational supporters would have to admit that a lot of his fans are unbearable. They don't care about the rockets at all and everything is centered on Lin. That's going to bother any true fan of a team. In terms of the coaching staff, their jobs are on the line. Every coach is going to favor certain players, but they are going to always do what they think is best for the team to win. We may not agree with their decisions, but there is a reason they're coaches at the highest level of basketball and we're typing crituqes on an internet website

Just my .2 cents but again, respect to you for the apology and calm demanor

 

Yaaahhhh..hello King1..miss you buddy...debating is fun sometimes...I enjoy lurking here from time to time to see what is happening...I don't usually post if I don't have anything to say so I just read all the post here...it's fun to read all the insigts because I feel that my knowledge had grown after debating..lol..

but anyway, all is well, no hard feelings..at the end of the day, all of us here are only wishing the Rockets to excel and to reach even just the first round..for me, as a fan, it'll be ecstatic if that happen...cheeers...( I'm waiting for ijHolmes to redeem himself..lol )

 

Bingo! You hit the nail on the head.

 

Peace.......me, I don't just follow Rockets because Knicks had grown with me when Lin was still there..I still follow them because though I hated Melo's gut but I still believe he is one of the best in the League and wish his team the best....now I have more teams to follow because Douglas is in Sacramento and Morris is in Suns...

If any of the Rockets players will be moved, another team will be added in my list....sigh...I just love the players who played with Lin and are his friends so I followed them wherever they will be playing next...but my biggest loyalty will be for the Rockets because this is where Lin is playing for....

And if it's time for Lin to move on later, I might still be following the Rockets because one way or another, some of these players had already grown in me...

 

Agree wholeheartedly. Even when your opinion differs from someone else, it's always a positive thing to have a good debate. We can all learn something from other people. I'm mostly a lurker too. I've been her since 2004 and have just over 2600 posts. I like this website because of the diversity it offers. People from all different cultures and walks of life post here and it's always interesting the observe the varying perspectives.

Cheers to you as well. I look forward to talking with you again as the teams continues to grow.

 

thanks...Actually I am still debating whether I will call it as what it is ( Mchale hates Lin ) or just something that was unintended remarks from a coach that was baited to say something against a polarizing figure in the NBA ( which is Lin )...

I don't hate Mchale or Sampson or any of our coaching staff...as a Lin fan I just wanted them to acknowledge and use the strength of Jeremy as what we have seen in some games where he'd shown that flashes..we need some consistency from the coaching staff because we want Lin to develop and see how far he could go...

And as the Coach they should be wary enough how their actions will be viewed by the public...if he had some concerns with Jeremy's game then he should have done it privately...and discretely because fans now a days are different from fans before...There are a lot of stats that could be used to refute something so those kind of remarks should have not been said...

 

I think the baiting issue is huge nowadays because of the social media factor. You see it happen time and time again. Not saying that's what happened to McHale but it's something to consider. I try not to read too much into coaches interviews in general because they tend to be vague and mixed with both praise and critcism. Not to mention the fact they are dealing with these guys on a daily basis and have a better feel as to what motivates them. As I said earlier, personally I'm not a fan of criticim in the media unless someone is acting like a complete idiot (the Jr. Smith's of the world) but if the end result is a positive then that's ok. I think Lin is probably one of the most adept players in the NBA players when it comes to that. He went from being a bench player to media star in a very short period of time and you always see him with a calm demeanor. He's got thick skin.


I can agree with that. Remember though that our coaching is dealing with a completely new team and nobody could have anticipated what Harden is doing this year. Even is you thought he had superstar potential, he's far exceeded ever his biggest supporters expectations. McHale admits to have a limited amount of plays (that's a criticism I have of him that I hope changes in the offseason since these guys now have a full season under their belts) so it's a lot easier to let Harden dictate the offense. Especially considering we're overachieving. I look at instances like pictures and story yesterday of him taking Robinson aside during practice and working with him. That's the type of coach I want for our team. We're young and we need a guy like that.